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00:23 < m-schmoock> rusty: can you explain how tests/test_connection.py  test_fail_unconfirmed is working? Specifically the dev-disconnect file feature used there?
00:24 < m-schmoock> first we write "=WIRE_OPEN_CHANNEL" in it. Then we stop the daemon, which calls cleanup with truncates the file. then the test writes "0WIRE_OPEN_CHANNEL\n" in it. whats that suppoed to do??
00:25 < m-schmoock> and whats this 'blackhole' about?
00:25 < m-schmoock> :D sorry have not used that before, its not clear to me what it does...
00:25 < rusty> m-schmoock: it's magic!
00:25 < m-schmoock> :D
00:26 < rusty> m-schmoock: common/dev_dusconnect.h describes the notation.
00:26 < m-schmoock> aahhhhh
00:27 < rusty> m-schmoock: basically, as we send a message, if it matches the disconnect file, we do the corresponding action.  Usually it's to force a disconnect at a specific point
00:27 < m-schmoock> okay, thats a funny feature
00:29 < m-schmoock> why does it need the cleanup truncate() on contrib/pyln-testing/pyln/testing/utils.py line 515
00:30 < m-schmoock> well anyway, the test instructs the cln to behave normal on WIRE_OPEN_CHANNEL, then stops it and restarts it by telling it to blackhole any messages for WIRE_OPEN_CHANNEL, right?
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01:26 < m-schmoock> what again was the proper way to log all database statements?
01:26 < m-schmoock> *bound and compiled database statements I might add
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01:41 < m-schmoock> nvm, ill go for the dblog plugin
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06:52 < jasan> m-schmoock: how can I test #4074? (BROKEN on duplicated close_to)
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06:56 < m-schmoock> jasan: there a unittest. if you want to do it by hand, use two plugins that both set close_to
06:57 < jasan> thanks
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12:52 < HelloShitty> Evening
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12:57 < HelloShitty> I'm starting to get familiar with the Elements project but I have some questions I'm not sure I can find clear answers
12:58 < HelloShitty> for instance, Liquid Network is a side chain, right? A 2nd layer on top of the original bitcoin protocol
12:59 < HelloShitty> So, how we should call Lightning Network? Is it also a side-chain/2nd layer?
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13:40 < m-schmoock> HelloShitty: since lightning is not a chain, it cant be a side-chain
13:40 < HelloShitty> So, how can one call it?
13:40 < m-schmoock> I tend to call it Bitcoin routing protocol if someone asks me
13:40 < HelloShitty> And if you allow me more quesitons: does it runs on Liquid side chain then?
13:41 < HelloShitty> ok, I see
13:41 < m-schmoock> nope, it runs ontop of bitcoin, which it deserves the term "layer2 protocl"
13:41 < HelloShitty> Ok, so Lightning and Liquid and 2 complete distinct things?
13:41 < m-schmoock> yes
13:41 < HelloShitty> No relationship whatsoever?
13:42 < HelloShitty> ok
13:42 < m-schmoock> not that I know of
13:42 < m-schmoock> liquid is some, usually inter exchange, side chain liquidity protocol
13:42 < HelloShitty> So, if I want to install only Lightning Network, I only need the c-lighting repository to be installed?
13:43 < m-schmoock> lighting is a bitcoin routing protocol mechanism that works with bitcoin  contracts
13:43 < m-schmoock> HelloShitty: you need c-lightning and of course bitcoind installed. thats it
13:43 < HelloShitty> ok, bitcoind is already installed
13:44 < HelloShitty> I was just not sure I need the entire Elements project repository, only c-lightning or Liquid + Lightning, to make things work
13:44 < m-schmoock> then you just need to setup an bitcoind RPC user to be used by lightnind and get it running
13:47 < HelloShitty> hum, ok
13:48 < az0re> <HelloShitty> So, how can one call it?
13:48 < az0re> I prefer "cryptographically-secured digital Hawala using Bitcoin as an integrated settlement layer"
13:48 < HelloShitty> So, what do we get if I download and install the entire Elements Project? We get Liquid and Lightning Networks ?
13:49 < HelloShitty> az0re: may I ask where you from?
13:49 < HelloShitty> Your nick suggests me an highland
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13:50 < az0re> You can ask but I won't answer :P
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13:51 < HelloShitty> sure, fair enough. :)
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13:52 < m-schmoock> im off. gn8
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13:54 < HelloShitty> gnight
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15:01 < HelloShitty> How are the peers inside ./contrib/bootstrap-node.sh script ?
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