--- Log opened Fri Oct 16 00:00:48 2020 00:16 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #c-lightning 01:22 -!- jonatack [~jon@109.232.227.138] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 01:33 < m-schmoock> darosior: `chan = peer["channels"][0]` was likely failing because the scid you were looking foe was not in the first (old) channel to that peer -.- 01:34 < m-schmoock> just a guess though 01:37 < m-schmoock> niftynei: hooray on #4926c25bb 01:50 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.173.108.144] has joined #c-lightning 02:04 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@89.36.78.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:09 -!- raucao [~raucao@skippe2.nine.ch] has joined #c-lightning 02:09 -!- raucao [~raucao@skippe2.nine.ch] has left #c-lightning ["Leaving"] 02:23 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.173.108.144] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 02:24 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.173.108.144] has joined #c-lightning 02:47 -!- vincenzopalazzo [~vincent@2001:b07:6474:9d49:8c33:34d2:fcb0:5939] has joined #c-lightning 02:49 < darosior> m-schmoock: nice catch 02:49 < darosior> I think you got it 02:51 < m-schmoock> <3 02:51 < darosior> Checking my peer list now 02:51 * darosior "man jq" here we go again.. 02:52 < m-schmoock> always go for jq -r .root.path.element ;) 02:52 < m-schmoock> but I think you need more complex stuff 02:52 < darosior> This is map() i'm screwing up everytime 02:53 < m-schmoock> yeah ^^ 02:54 < darosior> state": "CLOSINGD_COMPLETE 02:54 < darosior> state": "CHANNELD_NORMAL 02:54 < darosior> I think we can call it a find :) 02:54 < darosior> Adapting it now 02:54 < m-schmoock> noic 02:54 < m-schmoock> noice 02:55 < darosior> Btw, i thought about our disagreeement on the feeadjuster plugin 02:55 < darosior> How do you use it ? 02:55 < darosior> You said on GH "with a threshold", does this mean you don't update until you are in danger zone ? 02:56 < m-schmoock> yes 02:56 < m-schmoock> lets call it 'concern' rather than 'disagreeement' :D 02:56 < darosior> Yeah 02:56 < m-schmoock> I really want such a plugin in the repo 02:56 < darosior> I always mix up vocabulary no offense 02:57 < darosior> Ok, so a) i don't think this should be the default b) this must change quite a bit of logic ? 02:57 < m-schmoock> other than reduced efficiency and increased privacy, what it does it to increas network health by just making sure channels are not too imbalanced thus increase routing probablity 02:58 < m-schmoock> I dont see a good need to try to get to 50/50 02:58 < m-schmoock> a) can live with setting it by hand :D 02:58 < darosior> :) 02:58 < darosior> b) I'm wrong 02:58 < m-schmoock> b) do you mean zmn's suggestion, then yes. a simple threashold is easy 03:00 < m-schmoock> just maybe we should consider a default not beaing 50/50 but maybe 75 and it can be reduced to 50/50 if wanted. but I dont want to make this decision 03:00 < m-schmoock> btw, it works great for me even with 80% thresh 03:01 < m-schmoock> but im not a big router. only 20 channs but reasonable cpapacity 03:01 < m-schmoock> update: nope, I killed a few very dysfunctional channels. thus only 15 chans 03:02 < darosior> Hmm i'm testing on my own so basically same 03:02 < m-schmoock> also we should add in a distinct base fee calculation for each channel.... 03:03 < m-schmoock> I think that would give it again increased privacy but this time also efficiency 03:03 < darosior> I was going to add --exclude 03:03 < m-schmoock> > I was going to add --exclude what do you mean? 03:04 < darosior> If one has "special" channels, eg runs multiple nodes and sets specific fees here, they don't want their fee adjuster to adjust those channels fees 03:05 < darosior> Also, i wonder: what about unannounced channels ? 03:05 < m-schmoock> ah okay, yes that maybe helpful 03:05 < m-schmoock> I would not fiddle with private channels 03:05 < m-schmoock> since those are mostly 'local users' 03:05 < m-schmoock> a default fee should apply 03:06 < m-schmoock> user wallets need to take care of their balancing themselfs, since they are likely the last hop, its their call 03:08 < m-schmoock> especially since MPP is a thing now 03:10 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:12 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has joined #c-lightning 03:14 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:27 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.173.108.144] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:30 < darosior> cdecker: i think we could really use your input in https://github.com/lightningd/plugins/pull/147 :/ 03:30 <@cdecker> Yep, will look at it now 03:31 < m-schmoock> specificyll the tradeoffs between efficiency and privacy. but I guess you read the discussion 03:33 <@cdecker> Yeah, it's not an easy one. We can't really prevent users from oversharing, and some will defnitely want the automated fee adjustments, so the only thing we really can do is to add sensible defaults. But that's a hard tradeoff to make 03:33 <@cdecker> I'll start from the top again, and see what I can find 03:35 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-zzgbwiizjmpgirfq] has left #c-lightning [] 03:35 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-zzgbwiizjmpgirfq] has joined #c-lightning 03:36 < darosior> Thanks ! 03:43 < darosior> --feeadjuster-threshold: 0.08 does not parse as type bool 03:43 < darosior> huh 06:06 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.7.1] 06:24 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #c-lightning 07:27 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@37.120.205.214] has joined #c-lightning 07:55 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@37.120.205.214] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:45 -!- jonatack [~jon@213.152.162.99] has joined #c-lightning 09:07 -!- mrostecki [~mrostecki@gateway/tor-sasl/mrostecki] has joined #c-lightning 09:14 -!- kristapsk_ [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has joined #c-lightning 09:14 -!- ksedgwic [~ksedgwic@157-131-253-103.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 09:16 -!- kristapsk [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:19 -!- kristapsk_ is now known as kristapsk 09:20 -!- liberliver [~Thunderbi@144.49.211.130.bc.googleusercontent.com] has quit [Quit: liberliver] 09:20 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:20 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has joined #c-lightning 09:31 -!- ksedgwic [~ksedgwic@157-131-253-103.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #c-lightning 10:11 -!- mrostecki [~mrostecki@gateway/tor-sasl/mrostecki] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:17 -!- kabaum [~kabaum@h-13-35.A163.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:31 -!- kabaum [~kabaum@h-13-35.A163.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #c-lightning 11:50 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-zzgbwiizjmpgirfq] has left #c-lightning [] 11:50 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-zzgbwiizjmpgirfq] has joined #c-lightning 11:57 -!- az0re [~az0re@gateway/tor-sasl/az0re] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 12:19 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #c-lightning 12:22 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:39 -!- k3tan [~pi@gateway/tor-sasl/k3tan] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:40 -!- k3tan [~pi@gateway/tor-sasl/k3tan] has joined #c-lightning 13:43 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 14:22 -!- vincenzopalazzo [~vincent@2001:b07:6474:9d49:8c33:34d2:fcb0:5939] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:32 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 15:10 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:12 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has joined #c-lightning 15:36 <@niftynei> #lazy is there a way to get the rawtx for a channel's 'next' commitment tx? 16:00 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has joined #c-lightning 16:03 < darosior> Maybe the mkcommit tool if you know the commit number ? 17:00 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:05 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #c-lightning 18:46 -!- az0re [~az0re@gateway/tor-sasl/az0re] has joined #c-lightning 20:12 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-zzgbwiizjmpgirfq] has left #c-lightning [] 20:12 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-zzgbwiizjmpgirfq] has joined #c-lightning 20:57 -!- justanotheruser [~justanoth@unaffiliated/justanotheruser] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:50 -!- cryptoso- [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:51 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #c-lightning --- Log closed Sat Oct 17 00:00:49 2020