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01:30 < jasan> cdecker: Good morning! Thanks for explanation about ackbot in #4147. I was using "Tested ACK" as suggested in bitcoin/bitcoin repo and did not realized it can be less-specific here. See https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/issues/6100
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01:41 < jasan> m-schmoock: Switch to OpenBSD for a while :) re: 4156
01:41 < jasan> (and do not install bash there)
01:44 < m-schmoock> :D yes I have already thought about that
01:44 < m-schmoock> Archlinux is really for noobs
01:45 < m-schmoock> but its so slim
02:00 < jasan> take it easy, Archlinux is one of more advanced
02:01 < m-schmoock> I used to use gentoo for years but eventually I got lazy of handling maintenance
02:01 < m-schmoock> so I got to Arch and stook? (past of stick?) to it
02:01 < m-schmoock> *got stuck ^^
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02:37 < darosior> niftynei: thanks for https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/pull/4146#pullrequestreview-517321868, sorry i completely forgot about it
02:47 < m-schmoock> rusty: whats the proper way of changing/compiling/running testcases like ccan/ccan/json_escape/test/run.c ?
02:47 < m-schmoock> I'm fightning a bit with gcc to get all the imports and symbols correct
02:51 < darosior> m-schmoock: for the symbols use make update-mocks
02:51 < darosior> Ah nevermind it's in ccan
02:52  * darosior doesn't know much about those unknown territories
02:53 < darosior> Though each time i had to look here everything was pretty well defined in an "info-something" file, isn't it here ?
02:54 < m-schmoock> Since we dont have Makefiles I try to do it by hand: 
02:54 < m-schmoock> gcc ccan/ccan/json_escape/test/run.c -I ccan -I external/libwally-core/src/ccan -I . -o ./run
02:55 < m-schmoock> but the linker keeps missing objects. nvm, Im sure I will get it to work, Just thought there is an easy way
02:55 < m-schmoock> or does the main Makefile contain a target for it? ... checking
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03:43 < jasan> m-schmoock: in ccan source (rustyrussell/ccan) you run tools/ccanlint/ccanlint -s --deps-fail-ignore   ccan/json_escape/
03:44 < jasan> (found it in one git log message)
03:44 < jasan> tells me:
03:44 < jasan> json_escape: Total score: 40/44
03:45 < jasan> m-schmoock: When you run it with -vv then you get CFLAGS
03:46 < jasan>  compiler set to 'cc'
03:46 < jasan>  compiler flags set to '-g3 -ggdb -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -Wold-style-definition -Wundef -Wmissing-prototypes -Wmissing-declarations -Wpointer-arith -Wwrite-strings -DCCAN_STR_DEBUG=1 -I.'
03:49 < jasan> eh, maybe it's just linting it, sorry
04:04 < jasan> or maybe the name (ccanlint) is a bit confusing because it seems to me that it really runs the tests
04:04  * jasan is playing with it for the first time, just thanks to m-schmoock's question
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11:47 < grubles> hm so i'm running into a "bad file descriptor" error connecting to peers on my openbsd node.
11:54 < darosior> grubles: there was such an issue lately iirc (and if it's the same) it's fixed in master
12:06 < grubles> ok i'll try master then
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12:55 < grubles> no bueno for master either
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14:42 < HelloShitty> az0re: I just read your replies
14:43 < HelloShitty> yes, I know about that in theory
14:43 < HelloShitty> But sometimes, things are written in such way that it looks it needs manual action from the parties
14:44 < HelloShitty> For instance, I know, theoretically, than one of the parties can try to cheat and broadcast older (inner lightning transactions) to the bitcoin network and they risk penalties or even lose their funds to the counterparty. I think I'm not misusing words
14:44 < HelloShitty> but I don't know how is that done in practice
14:45 < HelloShitty> like, can you go to your Lightning node, copy and paste some older txID and broadcast it to the bitcoin network manually, using your bitcoin node?
14:45 < HelloShitty> is that way that things happens when someone tries to cheat?
14:47 < HelloShitty> Also, I'm using sparkwallet, just because it supports c-lightning, but when I click on "Close Channel" in Spark-Wallet, am I closing the channel unilateraly or is some other action taken by me that is called "unilateral close"? And if the "Close channel" is the so called "unilateral close", what and how would be performed a bilateral channel close?
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16:02 < az0re> <HelloShitty> like, can you go to your Lightning node, copy and paste some older txID and broadcast it to the bitcoin network manually, using your bitcoin node?
16:02 < HelloShitty> Never tried... Can I?
16:02 < HelloShitty> :|
16:02 < az0re> I don't know if c-lightning saves them, but if you hack it up, then yes, you can record commitment transactions and broadcast them later
16:03 < HelloShitty> So, where does the "if someone tries to cheat" enters?
16:03 < HelloShitty> How someone can cheat?
16:03 < HelloShitty> I mean, I don't want to know to try to cheat. lol. I just want to understand
16:03 < HelloShitty> because I'm still too fresh to be able to do such things... :)
16:04 < az0re> I don't know anything about SparkWallet, but any reasonable implementation would attempt a mutual close first before broadcasting a unilateral close.  Unfortunately I don't know enough to explain a mutual close in detail.
16:04 < HelloShitty> ah ok
16:04 < az0re> For example, they can try to cheat by waiting for you to be offline for an extended period of time then broadcasting an old commitment tx that gives them more BTC than they currently have right to.
16:05 < az0re> (presumably they modify their software to record commitment transactions)
16:05 < az0re> If you're not around to watch the blockchain for revoked commitment transactions and broadcast the revocation transaction, you'll be cheated
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