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06:04 < PaulTroon> Any tips for diagnosing "Ran out of routes to try after 2 attempts: see `paystatus`" error? I'm trying to help a friend with 2 channels, one 100K sats the other 50K sats. Invoice is for 2.8 sats
06:05 < PaulTroon> Could this be caused by the high onchain fee environment?
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06:29 < m-schmoock> cdecker: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/4175 
06:29 < m-schmoock> Also I discovered more plugin handling issues using start/stop/rescan
06:30 < m-schmoock> we should fix these for the next release since we know them already
06:36 < m-schmoock> This:  https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/4176
06:42 < m-schmoock> also this is fun: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/4177  ^^
06:43 < m-schmoock> so enough on the issues for today... lets do fix things.
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13:18 < fiatjaf> how can I make an onionreply from the next hop in a route?
13:18 < fiatjaf> (if I have its keys)
13:19 < fiatjaf> the create_onionreply and the wrap_onionreply functions take a "secret" parameter but don't use it for anything, is that it or are my eyes tricking me?
13:21 < HelloShitty> rusty 
13:21 < HelloShitty> IS your node offline?
13:29 < fiatjaf> HelloShitty: yes
13:29 < HelloShitty> fiatjaf: you also se him offline?
13:30 < HelloShitty> I know you from somewhere
13:30 < fiatjaf> HelloShitty: there's an issue: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/4177
13:30 < fiatjaf> from your dreams
13:30 < fiatjaf> maybe
13:31 < HelloShitty> you're related to some telegram Lightning bot, no?
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14:13 < fiatjaf> yes
14:13 < fiatjaf> nevermind the parameter is not called 'secret', but 'shared key', I'm stupid
14:14 < fiatjaf> shared_secret*
14:14 < fiatjaf> ok
14:14 < fiatjaf> now one question:
14:15 < fiatjaf> what is this shared_secret?
14:15 < fiatjaf> it's an ECDH secret between the payment initiator and each node in the route?
14:15 < fiatjaf> I mean one shared_secret for each
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14:16 < fiatjaf> but if the node in the route doesn't know who is the initiator how can it calculate the shared_secret?
14:17 < fiatjaf> or is it just some random value that comes inside the onion, assymetrically encrypted with the pubkey of each node in the route, that each node in the route then use to decrypt the rest of the onion?
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15:47 < fiatjaf> I guess I must read the entire BOLT4
15:47 < rusty> fiatjaf: it's the hardest to parse BOLT, TBH...
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19:01 < fiatjaf> why is 'next_onion' and 'shared_secret' on htlc_accepted?
19:01 < fiatjaf> empty*
19:01 < fiatjaf> why are they empty?
19:02 < fiatjaf> I'm intercepting the payment and I'm the penultimate hop (the last hop is fake)
19:03 < fiatjaf> also, if I get the value from 'onion.payload' and parse it with pyln.proto I get TlvPayload[TlvField[amt_to_forward,2=10c8e0], TlvField[outgoing_cltv_value,4=09ffcd], TlvField[short_channel_id,6=1be6bdd330cb656c]]
19:04 < fiatjaf> shouldn't that also include an ephemeral key, hmac etc.?
19:04 < fiatjaf> (disclaimer: I have not finished reading the bolt4 yet)
19:09 < rusty> fiatjaf: those fields are for hop blinding, which is not in spec yet.
19:09 < rusty> fiatjaf: you're seeing the contents here, already unwrapped.
19:10 < fiatjaf> but I want the ephemeral key. is it there?
19:11 < fiatjaf> "00e06006621fc6a401000000000001e0780009ffe2000000000000000000000000"
19:11 < rusty> No, that's already unpacked.
19:11 < fiatjaf> this is the a very short onion, is it correct?
19:11 < fiatjaf> oh
19:11 < fiatjaf> already unpacked
19:11 < rusty> Pretty normal these days, in fact.
19:13 < fiatjaf> what about the next_onion? shouldn't it be there?
19:13 < rusty> No, this is just the payload for this hop.
19:14 < rusty> But yes, you get those fields too:
19:14 < rusty> json_add_hex_talarr(s, "next_onion", p->next_onion);
19:14 < rusty> 	json_add_secret(s, "shared_secret", hin->shared_secret);
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19:38 < fiatjaf> oh
19:38 < fiatjaf> it's just the docs that are wrong
19:39 < rusty> fiatjaf: doc/PLUGINS.md:952 ?
19:40 < fiatjaf> yes
19:41 < fiatjaf> I'm opening a PR
19:41 < rusty> fiatjaf: :+1:
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