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03:18 <@cdecker> HelloShitty, that pretty much says it all: the remote node is offline
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05:52 < m-schmoock> cdecker:  https://github.com/lightningd/plugins/pull/179   just cleanups and obvious things... but a lot. If your want to cross-check.
05:53 < m-schmoock> Low hanging froits. Next step is more testing on certain plugins ...
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06:23 <@cdecker> I'm tempted to just enable `black` formatting to my own plugins
06:24 <@cdecker> Have you seen pre-commit (https://pre-commit.com/)? Looks like a nice and extensible framework to add pre-commt checks such as automiatic formatting and type-checking
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06:29 < m-schmoock> cdecker: neat idea, will check it out. My intention was to clean up this existing mess so we can enable flake8 on the plugin repo CU
06:29 < m-schmoock> *CI
06:30 <@cdecker> Would be great to have a way for individual plugins to opt in to more CI checks/linters instead of forcing everybody to go with the strictest version outright (want to keep barrier to entry low)
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06:37 < darosior> cdecker: hmm were the comments on the prometheus plugin PR addressed?
06:38 <@cdecker> I fixed them up myself, in order to unstick it
06:38 < darosior> Ah, ok
06:38 <@cdecker> It was just the indentation on one comment and the port re-assignment, so no biggy
06:45 < darosior> oh nice you added tests for all Python versions
06:46 <@cdecker> Yeah, GH Actions is really nice (unless you have a huge test-matrix like c-lightning itself) :-)
06:46 < darosior> https://github.com/lightningd/plugins/pull/180 the indentation wasn't actually adressed
06:47 < darosior> And while at it let's output unknown for the alias
06:47 <@cdecker> Been playing with Cirrus CI for c-lightning, after several suggestions to that end from the bitcoin core project
06:47  * cdecker nods 
06:47 < darosior> Yeah, never used it myself but looks nice
06:48 < darosior> Are you going to move out from Travis in 2021?
06:48 <@cdecker> Thanks darosior ^^
06:48 < darosior> For C-lightning
06:49 <@cdecker> Looks like it, it was always the longer-term plan, because rusty is paying them loads of money so the main repo builds in an acceptable timeframe, and for that money we could get something quicker and more flexible
06:49 <@cdecker> And now they reduced their free-tier for opensource projects so much that it's just not worth working around their quirks anymore
06:50 <@cdecker> It was a good service while it lasted, but we've slowly outgrown it over time
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06:57 < m-schmoock> Just tried spark wallet for the first time. Not sure if its a good idea to trust a bunch of NPMs all my mainnet sats, but the wallet seems nice.
06:58 < m-schmoock> I wrote a little Docker container that cares for working SSL reverse proxy. At least it can only steal my sats, not more :D
06:59 < darosior> m-schmoock: you should try Lamp :)
07:00 < m-schmoock> Lamp what?
07:03 < darosior> The Android port of C-lightning by lvaccaro
07:03 < darosior> Lamp is the name
07:03 < darosior> https://github.com/lvaccaro/lamp
07:03 < darosior> Of course that's hacky but hey
07:04 < m-schmoock> ahhh :D NICE
07:05 < m-schmoock> Thats the project that brought in the need to query block explorers :D
07:16 < darosior> Now it was a consequence of us providing this ability :)
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08:40 < m-schmoock> darosior: gotta look into it, but imho it would be nice to have something like this working with bitcoinj instead of external explorers
08:40 < darosior> You can't really
08:40 < darosior> You need a trusted source of Bitcoin info
08:41 < m-schmoock> what requests/api is bitcoinj missing exaclty? (the java bitcoin library integrated in the schildbach wallet)
08:41 < darosior> Longer version: see this discussion with Zmn https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/3858
08:41 < m-schmoock> thx
08:41 < m-schmoock> :D
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08:47 < darosior> TL;DR: i think the most convincing argument is that you need a trusted fee estimation (as the security model implies timely confirmation). The remaining is ""only"" code architecture. It's not impossible but... Hard to get right (you basically need to re-implement bitcoind's mempool to not get Dos as you keep track of relayed transactions before
08:47 < darosior> they are included in a block you receive)
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15:47 < HelloShitty> Evening everyone
15:48 < HelloShitty> If I want to make a backup of my Lightning node so that if anything goes wrong, I can recover the channels and their states and balances and etc, which files/folders shoul I be backing up?
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15:58 < darosior> HelloShitty: may i introduce you to the-still-under-scrutiny-quite-comprehensive-backup-guide by Zmn https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/pull/4207 :-)
15:59 < HelloShitty> ohh ok. Yet another link to bookmark
15:59 < darosior> Otherwise, the lighter and incomplete version: https://lightning.readthedocs.io/FAQ.html#how-to-backup-my-wallet
16:02 < HelloShitty> ok, so I think there is already some work in progress to improve backing up right, darosior ?
16:11 < darosior> Definitely :)
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16:29 < HelloShitty> darosior: let me see if I understand the little I have read from those links
16:29 < HelloShitty> In terms of backup, what you guys are trying to address is corruption of database contents, no?
16:30 < HelloShitty> Not that a file or a folder gets corrupted by some hardware malfunction, is it?
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