--- Log opened Mon Jan 04 00:00:05 2021 00:26 -!- az0re [~az0re@gateway/tor-sasl/az0re] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 00:46 -!- DeadWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #c-lightning 00:47 -!- cryptoso- [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:48 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #c-lightning 00:48 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:48 < nibbier> Re "watchtowers cannot help you if your local data storage goes bad" - they would at least remove any time constraints from recovering my node, as I won't be successfully cheated while offline 00:49 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:49 -!- willcl_ark [~quassel@cpc123780-trow7-2-0-cust177.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: Quit] 00:50 -!- willcl_ark [~quassel@cpc123780-trow7-2-0-cust177.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #c-lightning 00:52 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has joined #c-lightning 01:06 -!- liberliver [~Thunderbi@144.49.211.130.bc.googleusercontent.com] has joined #c-lightning 01:48 <@cdecker> Not saying things aren't going hand in hand, but the concepts are fundamentally different :-) 02:03 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #c-lightning 02:07 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 02:08 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 04:16 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:16 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has joined #c-lightning 05:36 -!- vasild_ [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has joined #c-lightning 05:36 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has quit [Disconnected by services] 05:36 -!- vasild_ is now known as vasild 05:40 < darosior> cdecker: were those Travis timeouts already present last week or could it have been introduced by the throttler by any chance? 05:41 < darosior> This is not the same job timing out each time 05:43 <@cdecker> Hm, I'm mostly seeing `test_mpp_interference_2` and `test_lockup_drain` being flaky, which were flaky to begin with. Might be a bit early to call a trend, but I'll keep an eye on it 05:43 * cdecker needs to add flakyness graphs over time to http://46.101.246.115:5001/ 05:59 < darosior> héhé 05:59 < darosior> cdecker: what do you mean by "Can we even still express our derivation paths as BIP32 HD keys?" ? 06:00 <@cdecker> If I were to enter the bip39 mnemonic into, e.g., electrum, and adjust the derivation paths, can I get our on-chain addresses? 06:01 <@cdecker> Hm, come to think of it we use salted HKDF in a couple of derivation paths, so we never could I think 06:13 < darosior> Nope we cannot so we really just have a custom mnemonics implementation anyways 06:15 <@cdecker> Right right, so my comment obviates itself :-) 06:15 < darosior> And since it did not generate valid seed beforehand we could stuff improvements now (the reason why i suggested adding a version number and stuff) 06:15 < darosior> Yeah, that was also the reason for having the dumpdescriptors dump a private-key version 06:17 < darosior> Speaking of which, i worked a bit with miniscript lately and wonder if a Miniscript-for-lightning discussion on the rfc repo would be welcome 06:17 < darosior> I have a translation of all LN Scripts to Miniscript somewhere 06:17 < darosior> And since there is an implementation for libwally.. 06:20 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 06:23 <@cdecker> That'd be nice. Do the miniscript versions actually compile down to our hand-optimized scripts? IIRC we had at least one HTLC script that didn't match the miniscript optimized ones 06:44 < darosior> Checking 06:45 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bamhammylzdpvfhb] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:47 -!- Jackielove4u [uid43977@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fqmqdesvfbargkli] has joined #c-lightning 07:05 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-grtgkzfemgwjcvcq] has left #c-lightning [] 07:08 < darosior> Hmm so looks like the HTLCs Scripts are indeed more optimized than what i got. Here is the gist https://gist.github.com/darosior/a655a4b1a0fb9f066c830cacfe9b02e2 . But i just used the website, will test both implementations. Worse case we can also modify the Miniscript instead of using the policy compiler. 07:08 < darosior> Also, even if we end up with slightly costier script imho it's worth it 07:09 < darosior> Will post an issue soon :tm: ! 07:09 < darosior> (ah it's also post anchor outputs only) 07:16 <@cdecker> Merged #4303, will try to rebase #4304 and #4307 on top ^^ 07:20 < darosior> Thanks :) 07:20 < darosior> Can do it otherwise 07:20 <@cdecker> No problem, just running some smoketests before pushing ^^ 07:28 -!- alko89 [~alko89@unaffiliated/alko89] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 07:29 -!- alko89 [~alko89@unaffiliated/alko89] has joined #c-lightning 08:03 -!- liberliver [~Thunderbi@144.49.211.130.bc.googleusercontent.com] has quit [Quit: liberliver] 08:46 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:53 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has joined #c-lightning 09:04 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-155.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #c-lightning 09:17 -!- alko89 [~alko89@unaffiliated/alko89] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 09:20 -!- alko89 [~alko89@unaffiliated/alko89] has joined #c-lightning 09:25 -!- alko89 [~alko89@unaffiliated/alko89] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 09:25 -!- alko89 [~alko89@unaffiliated/alko89] has joined #c-lightning 09:51 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #c-lightning 09:57 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat] 10:01 -!- ksedgwic [~ksedgwic@192-184-130-48.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net] has quit [Quit: Lost terminal] 10:01 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #c-lightning 10:01 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:03 -!- ksedgwic [~ksedgwic@192-184-130-48.fiber.dynamic.sonic.net] has joined #c-lightning 10:05 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #c-lightning 10:05 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:08 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #c-lightning 10:08 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Client Quit] 10:09 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #c-lightning 10:10 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Client Quit] 10:10 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-grtgkzfemgwjcvcq] has joined #c-lightning 10:11 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #c-lightning 10:11 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:12 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #c-lightning 10:12 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:16 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #c-lightning 11:06 < HelloShitty> zmncpxj, for some reason, lightning nodes running on SSD or SDD cards are always breaking due to sotrage problems, as far as I'm concerned 11:06 < HelloShitty> I've seen some friends loosing their funds due to screwed up SDD cards and about SSDs, it's just a thought. In the long run, they might be problematic 11:07 < HelloShitty> HDDs, if well cared, I think they can last longer 11:11 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #c-lightning 11:25 -!- jasan [~j@94.230.151.172] has joined #c-lightning 11:28 * jasan wishes wishes a belated happy new year! :-) 13:03 -!- jasan [~j@94.230.151.172] has quit [Quit: night] 13:05 < HelloShitty> Happy New Year all 13:05 < HelloShitty> Happy new ATH almost daily for BTC 13:05 < HelloShitty> heheh 13:43 < HelloShitty> How many files should there be of those blk00xxxx.dat ? 13:45 < willcl_ark> HelloShitty: I have `blk02392.dat` but your system may vary depending on how they are downloaded and serialised etc. 13:46 < HelloShitty> hum, ok, I thought that was always the same 13:46 < HelloShitty> Shouldn't these be copies from nodes to nodes? 13:47 < willcl_ark> Not really, there are tools e.g. https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/tree/master/contrib/linearize which can linearize this data 13:48 < willcl_ark> But should be pretty similar node to node tbh 14:00 < HelloShitty> ohh ok 14:00 < HelloShitty> nice, I didn't know about that tool 14:09 < willcl_ark> I'm not aware of it's particular effects; whether it speeds up disk access at all when seeding older blocks for example, but neat nonetheless... 14:24 < HelloShitty> yeah 14:35 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has left #c-lightning [] 14:43 < nibbier> HelloShitty: raid1 between ssd and hdd FTW! :) 14:57 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:58 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has joined #c-lightning 15:57 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined #c-lightning 16:11 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:12 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #c-lightning 16:27 -!- harrigan [~harrigan@ptr-93-89-242-235.ip.airwire.ie] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in] 16:28 -!- harrigan [~harrigan@ptr-93-89-242-235.ip.airwire.ie] has joined #c-lightning 17:36 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has quit [Disconnected by services] 17:36 -!- vasild_ [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has joined #c-lightning 17:36 -!- vasild_ is now known as vasild 18:01 -!- DeadWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:01 -!- DeadWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #c-lightning 18:20 -!- DeadWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:20 -!- DeadWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #c-lightning 18:27 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-grtgkzfemgwjcvcq] has left #c-lightning [] 18:27 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-grtgkzfemgwjcvcq] has joined #c-lightning 19:25 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #c-lightning 20:07 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has joined #c-lightning 22:17 -!- DeadWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:18 -!- zmnscpxj [~zmnscpxj@gateway/tor-sasl/zmnscpxj] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:31 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:35 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #c-lightning 22:47 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:47 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #c-lightning 23:08 -!- ghost43_ [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:08 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #c-lightning 23:19 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:20 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #c-lightning 23:32 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:34 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #c-lightning 23:37 -!- DeadWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #c-lightning --- Log closed Tue Jan 05 00:00:06 2021