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00:26 < nibbier> HelloShitty: I guess one would have to know more about the channels involved. also mind, that there are reserves that cannot be spend - so if you only send a few sat from blue this might not be enough to achive meaningful incoming capacity
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02:04 < HelloShitty> nibbier: I tried several values to and from BlueWallet to and from my node and all failed with the same message
02:04 < HelloShitty> and all the values were higher than any of the channels reserve
02:06 < nibbier> the values have to be smaller than (remote sats - reserve)
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02:31 < HelloShitty> nibbier: I have 1 channel with 38k sats (original outgoing capacity was 50k sats) and another channel with 19900 sats (original was 20k sats)
02:33 < HelloShitty> and I tried payments of 1000, 5000, 10000, 25000 and 51000
02:33 < HelloShitty> My first goal was to check if a 51k payment would split into the 2 channels I have to go through
02:34 < HelloShitty> but then I started decreasing the value and not even 1k sats wnet through
02:34 < HelloShitty> all said "After xx attempts, no route/path found"
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09:42 < Ademan> Is it possible to arrange something like btcpay such that it can create lightning invoices for an independent lightning node running elsewhere, without sharing keys and without RPC? I saw https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2019-June/002009.html which seems rather close.
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10:13 < nibbier> Ademan: that would solve a lot of problems indeed.
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10:54 < fiatjaf2> Ademan: https://github.com/fiatjaf/sparko
10:55 < fiatjaf2> it would be very easy to get support for this is on btcpay, it's the same RPC methods
10:55 < fiatjaf2> but you must ask them to add because it's a blackbox
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11:26 <@cdecker> There is a nifty trick I used for the paytest plugin: generate an invoice for a dummy node, and instruct the sender to pay through the real destination through routehints (https://github.com/lightningd/plugins/pull/193)
11:27 <@cdecker> It requires a plugin on the recipient to terminate and accept the payment, but allows a "no shared secrets" setup very nicely, and uses the lightning protocol in a novel way
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11:53 < rusty> Hi everyone!  We're on in 7 minutes at https://meet.jit.si/CLightning-Open-Meeting
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12:09 < jasan> m-schmoock: ping
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12:18 < dongcarl> Hi all, wondering if anyone knows what rusty meant by "bouncer" plugin here: https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/pull/4320
12:20 < rusty> bouncer is a plugin to create a forwarding invoice: you give it an invoice and it produces another invoice which pays to that one.
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12:48 < jasan> ln.dev (note)
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13:23 < gleb> Could someone point me to a way of paying without an invoice? I have an experimental testnet setting *me1 (100) - (0) hub (0) - (100) me2* and I just realized this can't be resolved with just invoices, right?
13:24 < gleb> I could have replaced hub with me3, but that's not possible for this particular experiment.
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13:34 < gleb> I really need to just shift money to the other side of the channel.
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