--- Log opened Sat Jan 16 00:00:17 2021 00:56 -!- az0re [~az0re@gateway/tor-sasl/az0re] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:48 < HelloShitty> Hello. There is something I don't fully understand. I'm reading here: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/00-introduction.md 02:48 < HelloShitty> And it is said there that: 02:48 < HelloShitty> Initially they each hold a bitcoin transaction that sends all the bitcoin (e.g. 0.1 bitcoin) back to one party. 02:50 < HelloShitty> I don't understand, when it's said that "each one holds a bitcoin transaction...". Each one? But when I open a channel to someone, I'm the only one sending (an holding) a bitcoin transaction 02:50 < HelloShitty> s/(an holding)/(and holding) 02:51 < darosior> No you are not :) Your peer is going to lock funds with you, they better have a canceling transaction 02:51 < darosior> I mean right now you are the only one putting funds, so at the first stage they don't need one. But that's going to change 03:15 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-grtgkzfemgwjcvcq] has left #c-lightning [] 03:15 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-grtgkzfemgwjcvcq] has joined #c-lightning 03:26 < HelloShitty> hum, ok 03:26 < HelloShitty> I think I understand 03:27 < HelloShitty> I mean, when I send the fundchannel command, there is a funding txid, right? It's this txid that can be broadcast to the network to close the channel and return the funds to the owner (me)? 03:32 < darosior> No, the funding *transaction* is broadcast to lock your funds with your peer. The "cancelling" transaction i'm talking about is signed by your peer before you broadcast the funding one in order to allow you to get back your funds should they become non responsive 03:33 < darosior> This "cancelling" transaction is the commitment transaction which we also use to update the state of the channel 03:34 < HelloShitty> ok, crystal clear now 03:34 -!- adam3us_ [~adam3us@unaffiliated/adam3us] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:35 -!- adam3us [~adam3us@unaffiliated/adam3us] has joined #c-lightning 03:59 -!- jonatack [~jon@213.152.162.10] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:00 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has joined #c-lightning 05:05 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:05 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #c-lightning 06:11 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:12 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 06:13 -!- jonatack [~jon@213.152.162.15] has joined #c-lightning 06:15 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #c-lightning 07:49 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #c-lightning 07:51 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:58 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:58 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #c-lightning 08:54 -!- raucao [~raucao@skippe2.nine.ch] has quit [Quit: kthxbai] 08:55 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has quit [Disconnected by services] 08:55 -!- vasild_ [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has joined #c-lightning 08:56 -!- vasild_ is now known as vasild 09:12 -!- raucao [~raucao@142.93.228.5] has joined #c-lightning 09:32 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:34 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #c-lightning 11:21 -!- liberliver [~Thunderbi@144.49.211.130.bc.googleusercontent.com] has joined #c-lightning 11:37 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-grtgkzfemgwjcvcq] has left #c-lightning [] 11:37 -!- liberliver [~Thunderbi@144.49.211.130.bc.googleusercontent.com] has quit [Quit: liberliver] 11:38 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-grtgkzfemgwjcvcq] has joined #c-lightning 12:29 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-90.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #c-lightning 12:56 < HelloShitty> One more question: 12:57 < HelloShitty> When a forward payment is forward by our node, and when we use 'listforwards'command, there are several fields in the return output 12:57 < HelloShitty> among others we have: 12:58 < HelloShitty> in_channel and out_channel, right? 12:58 < HelloShitty> These are supposed to me channels of our node, right? 13:00 < HelloShitty> If so, how is it possible that my 'listforwards' shows me scid's that I can't find with my 'listpeers' command? 13:02 < HelloShitty> These are supposed to **be** channels of our node, right? 13:18 -!- jonatack [~jon@213.152.162.15] has quit [Quit: jonatack] 13:38 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has joined #c-lightning 13:43 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:43 -!- jonatack [~jon@213.152.162.94] has joined #c-lightning 16:24 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:27 -!- reallll [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #c-lightning 16:27 -!- reallll is now known as belcher 16:29 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:15 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has joined #c-lightning 17:35 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:27 -!- Victorsueca [~Victorsue@unaffiliated/victorsueca] has joined #c-lightning 18:35 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:38 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #c-lightning 19:30 -!- tigermousr [~tigermous@unaffiliated/tigermousr] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:30 -!- blockstream_bot [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-grtgkzfemgwjcvcq] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:30 -!- blockstream_bot_ [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-pqshvaqnuizqflva] has joined #c-lightning 19:30 -!- nibbier [~quassel@mx01.geekbox.info] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:33 -!- tigermousr [~tigermous@unaffiliated/tigermousr] has joined #c-lightning 19:44 -!- blockstream_bot_ [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-pqshvaqnuizqflva] has left #c-lightning [] 19:45 -!- blockstream_bot_ [blockstrea@gateway/shell/sameroom/x-pqshvaqnuizqflva] has joined #c-lightning 20:56 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has quit [Disconnected by services] 20:56 -!- vasild_ [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has joined #c-lightning 20:56 -!- vasild_ is now known as vasild 22:33 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@47.61.62.148] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:34 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@47.61.62.148] has joined #c-lightning 23:06 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] --- Log closed Sun Jan 17 00:00:17 2021