--- Log opened Fri Aug 14 00:00:49 2020
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11:12 < achow101> urgh, trezor broken again
11:13 < achow101> they broke multisigs with non BIP 45 or BIP 48 derivation paths
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12:07 < instagibbs> muh safety, no go load random web wallets plebs
12:38 < achow101> but it's multisig!
12:59 < achow101> re: d'cent, I'm wary about adding them. Their intentions aren't clear, and it seems to me that they might just be adding themselves to HWI to try to get listed in bitcoin.org
13:00 < achow101> none of their stuff is open source
13:08 < instagibbs> nothing about their hardware? that's a bit shakey
13:10 < achow101> https://github.com/bitcoin-dot-org/bitcoin.org/pull/3383 is the bitcoin.org thread. it seems like they are failing to provide anything open source
13:17 < instagibbs> i guess that's a question, do you want to support devices that have no OSS tooling
13:23 < achow101> I'd really prefer them to open source what can be open sourced
14:20 < TheCharlatan> achow101 would expect multisig to work on generic derivation paths instead, or a particular one in addition?
14:20 < achow101> TheCharlatan: I was expecting multisigs to work on the single key derivation paths too
14:21 < achow101> basically the old multisig thing where people just make a one off multisig with some key from their wallet
14:21 < TheCharlatan> I see, the problem is that you have to isolate the change from the two somehow. Using the same paths makes it harder.
14:24 < achow101> well for a one off multisig, there probably wont be change
14:24 < achow101> and change would be multisig too, so I don't think there would be any confusion there
15:39 < gwillen> well one-offs the change can't be multisig unless you reuse addresses
15:39 < gwillen> since you have no way to get a new multisig address
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--- Log closed Sat Aug 15 00:00:49 2020