--- Day changed Wed Nov 13 2019 00:11 -!- johnonchain [~johnoncha@2001:41d0:fc63:9c00:2931:aec:9468:a5e7] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 00:17 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 00:19 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has joined #joinmarket 01:59 -!- openoms [~quassel@185.174.156.219] has joined #joinmarket 02:29 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:59 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has joined #joinmarket 03:23 -!- core [~core@unaffiliated/core] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 03:25 -!- core [~core@unaffiliated/core] has joined #joinmarket 09:08 -!- openoms [~quassel@185.174.156.219] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:40 -!- Emilie38Jakubows [~Emilie38J@ns334669.ip-5-196-64.eu] has joined #joinmarket 09:42 -!- StopAndDecrypt_ [~StopAndDe@184.75.208.74] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:42 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@cpe-24-168-77-92.si.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 09:43 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@cpe-24-168-77-92.si.res.rr.com] has quit [Changing host] 09:43 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #joinmarket 09:44 -!- Emilie38Jakubows [~Emilie38J@ns334669.ip-5-196-64.eu] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:48 -!- Sylvia61Kulas [~Sylvia61K@ns334669.ip-5-196-64.eu] has joined #joinmarket 09:57 -!- johnonchain [~johnoncha@2001:41d0:fc63:9c00:2931:aec:9468:a5e7] has joined #joinmarket 10:10 -!- johnonchain [~johnoncha@2001:41d0:fc63:9c00:2931:aec:9468:a5e7] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 11:02 -!- johnonchain [~johnoncha@2001:41d0:fc63:9c00:2931:aec:9468:a5e7] has joined #joinmarket 11:12 -!- johnonchain [~johnoncha@2001:41d0:fc63:9c00:2931:aec:9468:a5e7] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 11:17 -!- h20 [2ec205a5@46.194.5.165] has joined #joinmarket 11:18 -!- h20 [2ec205a5@46.194.5.165] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:53 < belcher> wow i just came across bip179 11:54 < belcher> This BIP proposes a new term for 'address' The new term is: Bitcoin Invoice Address 11:54 < belcher> https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0179.mediawiki 11:54 < belcher> time to make a bitcoin wiki page called "BIP179 adoption" and bug wallet devs and other services to implement it 12:03 < belcher> thinking about it, such a wiki page should include a section on "documentation", we can track whether the bitcoin wiki, bitcoin developer guide, antonopolis's book and so on use "invoice address" instead of "address" 12:14 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:16 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has joined #joinmarket 12:41 -!- reallll [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket 12:44 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 12:45 -!- simon_ [~simon@93-238-145-85.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Quit: simon_] 12:52 -!- reallll is now known as belcher 13:15 < belcher> after some conversations with some people i see flaws in the bip179 idea 13:15 < belcher> for example a plus side would be that LN already uses the name invoice, so in wallet UIs you could unify onchain and LN sending with a text box called "invoice".... but that wont work because LN invoices contain the amount and bitcoin address dont 13:16 < belcher> one of the electrum devs suggests trying to get bip21 adopted, you know those URIs that look like bitcoin:175tWpb8K1S7NmH4Zx6rewF9WQrcZv245W?amount=20.3&label=Luke-Jr and also they are probably the best way to have payjoin/p2ep happening, the end point would be encoded in the URI 13:18 < belcher> the thing is its relatively easy to have open source wallet adopt things like this, much harder to get services like exchanges.. i hear some exchanges force users into using a single deposit address for everything 13:27 -!- kristapsk [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:28 -!- kristapsk [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has joined #joinmarket 13:37 < kristapsk> belcher, yes, Bitmex is one example of one lifetime address per account (vanity one, always starts with 3BMEX...), also Binance 15:25 -!- technonerd [~techno@gateway/tor-sasl/technonerd] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:51 -!- openoms [~quassel@185.174.156.219] has joined #joinmarket 16:19 -!- Giszmo [~leo@122-58-98-6-adsl.sparkbb.co.nz] has joined #joinmarket 16:19 -!- Giszmo [~leo@122-58-98-6-adsl.sparkbb.co.nz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:18 -!- openoms [~quassel@185.174.156.219] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:28 -!- AgoraRelay [~jmrelayfn@p5DE4A839.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:30 -!- CgRelayBot [~CgRelayBo@p5DE4A839.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 17:40 -!- CgRelayBot [~CgRelayBo@p5DE4A973.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 17:42 -!- AgoraRelay [~jmrelayfn@p5DE4A973.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 18:51 -!- technonerd [~techno@gateway/tor-sasl/technonerd] has joined #joinmarket 18:54 -!- kristapsk [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:54 -!- kristapsk [~KK@gateway/tor-sasl/kristapsk] has joined #joinmarket 19:04 < technonerd> how should you maintain updates for the virtualenv? 19:05 < technonerd> wipe jmvenv and run setupall.py occasionally? 19:08 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:22 -!- adlai [~adlai@unaffiliated/adlai] has joined #joinmarket 21:38 -!- johnonchain [~johnoncha@2001:41d0:fc63:9c00:2931:aec:9468:a5e7] has joined #joinmarket 22:04 -!- johnonchain [~johnoncha@2001:41d0:fc63:9c00:2931:aec:9468:a5e7] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:28 -!- simon_ [~simon@93-238-145-85.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has joined #joinmarket 23:41 -!- simon_ [~simon@93-238-145-85.ftth.glasoperator.nl] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:41 -!- simon_ 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