--- Log opened Sun Dec 20 00:00:52 2020 00:52 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:16 -!- DeanWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:16 -!- DeanWeen [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #joinmarket 05:49 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:49 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has joined #joinmarket 06:12 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 06:32 -!- dopplergange [~dop@195.158.249.47] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:32 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #joinmarket 07:57 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket 08:01 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:26 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 09:16 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:23 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has quit [Quit: deafboy] 09:35 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has joined #joinmarket 09:58 < dave_uy> Is there a migration path for makers from wrapped segwit to native segwit? I was thinking of a "patient send" or custom output proposal for makers where they could send joins outside their wallet over time. 10:21 < dave_uy> My thoughts on the "patient send" for makers. https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/issues/56#issuecomment-748642458 11:06 -!- technonerd [~techno@gateway/tor-sasl/technonerd] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:06 -!- technonerd [~techno@gateway/tor-sasl/technonerd] has joined #joinmarket 11:29 < waxwing> dave_uy, i've (and not only I!) thought about this before, specifically: apply patientsendpayment idea, but to maker. i think the main thing is, it can only really be about changing destinations, not amounts. 11:29 < waxwing> and even then there are some tricky aspects. 11:29 < waxwing> here's one idea: configure the maker to use a different (even, watch only) bip84 wallet for its destination coinjoins, than its change outputs. 11:30 < waxwing> obviously it means your maker gets smaller in what it can offer over time, so it won't realistically let you empty the wallet, but that needn't make it an impossible idea. 11:30 < waxwing> in fact, more variety/confusion in the types of outputs joinmarket creates is kind of nice for the system. 11:46 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 11:47 < dave_uy> I like the bip84 idea. I thought having a one off address might actually be easier than importing a bip84 but I probably don't understand the technical issues. What is the problem with changing the amounts? Privacy? I assume it isn't a technical problem. 11:49 < waxwing> dave_uy, one thing to remember: you can't keep using the same address because it'll pollute the privacy of the other coinjoin participants 11:49 < waxwing> for amounts,the key thing is makers don't choose amounts. you can try to somehow fill separate buckets i guess, like have "the next 1 btc of coinjoins goes to account 4 in wallet 1" 11:50 < waxwing> it's going to get a bit complicated maybe .. not sure. 11:55 < dave_uy> I figured outputs could go to addresses that can be fully satisfied, so addresses would only be sent to once. I don't really see a way to stop people from reuse though. Takers can send to reused address anyway. 11:56 < waxwing> ok 12:51 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:24 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 13:37 -!- viasil [~nobody@95.174.67.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:42 -!- dave_uy [~david@108.61.193.26] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 13:42 -!- dave_uy [~david@108.61.193.26] has joined #joinmarket 13:43 -!- viasil_ [~nobody@95.174.67.172] has joined #joinmarket 15:13 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 15:14 -!- Zenton [~user@unaffiliated/vicenteh] has joined #joinmarket 15:24 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #joinmarket 15:25 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:26 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #joinmarket 15:30 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:31 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #joinmarket 15:35 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:50 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #joinmarket 16:22 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:22 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #joinmarket 16:25 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:26 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #joinmarket 16:30 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:31 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #joinmarket 16:35 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:36 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #joinmarket 16:40 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:41 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #joinmarket 16:42 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Client Quit] 16:44 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #joinmarket 16:45 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:46 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #joinmarket 16:46 -!- MemeFarmer___ [sid414248@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-txbrpbhdeiszuiyj] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 16:46 -!- tralfaz [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has joined #joinmarket 16:47 -!- davterra [~davterra@gateway/tor-sasl/tralfaz] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:47 -!- MemeFarmer___ [sid414248@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iqujcmaknwnxzith] has joined #joinmarket 16:57 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: dr-orlovsky, dave_uy, StopAndDecrypt, jonatack, aguycalled, darosior 17:03 -!- DSRelBot [~DSRelBot@p548660a6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:03 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p548660a6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 17:17 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p5de4ad96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 17:17 -!- Netsplit over, joins: dr-orlovsky, jonatack, darosior, StopAndDecrypt, aguycalled, dave_uy 17:18 -!- dave_uy [~david@108.61.193.26] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 17:18 -!- dave_uy [~david@108.61.193.26] has joined #joinmarket 17:19 -!- DSRelBot [~DSRelBot@p5de4ad96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 18:02 -!- DSRelBot [~DSRelBot@p5de4ad96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:03 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p5de4ad96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:17 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p5de4a8a9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 18:18 -!- DSRelBot [~DSRelBot@p5de4a8a9.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 23:37 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] --- Log closed Mon Dec 21 00:00:53 2020