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05:00 < waxwing> Bokai_, see https://gist.github.com/AdamISZ/d9db8d8abc611fa4c25618f02823123b
05:01 < waxwing> so basically download it as a file (use 'raw'), rename it to say recover_old_keys.py or similar and then:
05:01 < waxwing> for using it, you don't need Core operational. grab the default joinmarket.cfg and edit it so that in [BLOCKCHAIN] it says blockchain_source = no_blockchain
05:01 < waxwing> (instead of bitcoin_rpc)
05:02 < waxwing> and then you can run as per the help message (python recover-old-keys.py --help)
05:02 < waxwing> oh i forgot that step though: you've installed joinmarket, so you probably already know: you should be in the venv to run any script
05:02 < waxwing> so you should have typed `source jmvenv/bin/activate` from the root directory of joinmarket-clientserver (as you were instructed at the end of the installation script)
05:03 < waxwing> so, your process after that's all set up would be something like:
05:03 < waxwing> `python recover-old-keys.py -N 100 -m5 > keys.txt`
05:03 < waxwing> and it will prompt you to enter the keys on the command line.
05:04 < waxwing> enter the seedphrase sorry, not the keys.
05:04 < waxwing> and then the keys will be in the file keys.txt
05:04 < waxwing> as per the help, be careful doing this. don't leave private keys lying around.
05:04 < waxwing> to find the coins corresponding to any of those keys is something outside the scope of this.
05:04 < waxwing> (the addresses are of course printed with the private keys)
05:05 < waxwing> if you have trouble getting the script to run, ask herre.
05:06 < Bokai_> Thanks! I will try it
05:08 < Bokai_> One thing though, I need to recover the wallet by using my mnemonic first, right?
05:08 < waxwing> what do you mean by 'recover the wallet'?
05:08 < Bokai_> I only have the 12 word seed right now
05:08 < waxwing> the whole point of me rewriting the script is so you could recover the keys from the seedphrase
05:09 < Bokai_> ok, good thans
05:19 < Bokai_> It worked perfectly!
05:19 < waxwing> great :)
05:20 < Bokai_> Any idea on my next step. I now have thousands of adressess I need to check
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05:21 < waxwing> was the wallet that heavily used that you needed that many?
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05:21 < waxwing> i gave the -N 100 example but that was for someone who needed to do a lot. if you only did 20 per account branch it would be 200 total for the default 0..4 mixdepths
05:23 < Bokai_> Ah no, I just used what you wrote, since I don't really remember what was default
05:24 < waxwing> give me a ballpark of how many transactions it might have done; 5? 50? 500?
05:24 < Bokai_> So python recover-old-keys.py -N 20 -m5 would be good if I basically used a default setting?
05:24 < waxwing> i mean you already have that data, it's just the beginnings of the lists :)
05:25 < Bokai_> I honestly don't remember. 6 years is ages ago. :)
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05:25 < waxwing> you might try this, if Core is synced:
05:26 < waxwing> set segwit=false in the joinmarket.cfg and try `python wallet-tool.py recover --recoversync`
05:26 < waxwing> but you are in a pretty tough situation if you have *zero* idea how many transactions there might be, since you can never really be sure how far forward to scan
05:27 < waxwing> this is much more the case with Joinmarket than with most other wallet usage profiles, since joinmarket wallets (especially in the old days) tended to have fairly large gaps.
05:27 < waxwing> (note -g flag to wallet-tool also, in that regard)
05:28 < waxwing> btw absolutely no guarantee that that last suggestion will work, i think we have almost entirely deprecated any legacywallet usage in the latest versions.
05:28 < Bokai_> The last suggestion, I need standard blockchain_source = bitcoin-rpc, I guess? 
05:29 < waxwing> indeed
05:30 < waxwing> sorry to be vague about whether that would work, i would need to spend quite a bit of time to figure it out
05:30 < Bokai_> No worries, I understand.
05:30 < waxwing> even if it did work, it could end up being a big pain. you need to do bitcoin core rescans.
05:30 < belcher> a good solution should be bitcoin-rpc-no-history and -g 100000 or however high he wants
05:31 < belcher> its designed with this in mind
05:31 < waxwing> ah yeah thanks i keep forgetting,lol
05:31 < Bokai_> But now that I have the keys, any recommendation on where I should check these manually? I've basically been away from the crypto scene for these last few years
05:31 < waxwing> but it's interesting as to whether that will still work with LegacyWallet on old path derivation
05:31 < belcher> that will be interesting
05:31 < waxwing> we had recover-old-wallet.py or whatever, the problem is i'm not sure if that works here, without a wallet file
05:32 < waxwing> the previous time a guy came here with this problem, he had the file.
05:32 < belcher> so if he uses the regular joinmarket with segwit=false and native=false, can he create a wallet file using his seed phrase?
05:32 < belcher> i.e. recover from seed
05:32 < waxwing> but anyway Bokai_ belcher's suggestion there is right on the money *if* you can somehow recover to a wallet file. because it checks the utxo set. which always has the data.
05:33 < waxwing> belcher, yeah that's what i'm not clear in my head about.
05:33 < belcher> we'll have to try it and see
05:33 < waxwing> it was convert_old_wallet not recover_old_wallet of course, the script i referred to.
05:33 < belcher> bitcoin-rpc-no-history is also efficient at scanning loads of addresses, so you can tell it to search hundreds of thousands without too much trouble
05:33 < waxwing> it was converting the file format.
05:33 < Bokai_> Can you ELI5 it for me?
05:33 < waxwing> yeah no-history takes a little while but it's 100% better for that case.
05:34 < belcher> Bokai_ in the joinmarket.cfg file theres an option `blockchain_source` and if you set `blockchain_source = bitcoin-rpc-no-history` then joinmarket will sync your wallet by scanning the utxo set
05:34 < belcher> and that should fit well with your situation of recovering an old wallet
05:35 < waxwing> but presumably you can't do the first step with that blockchain_source setting; the recover step.
05:35 < waxwing> ie from seed to file.
05:35 < belcher> yes most likely
05:35 < Bokai_> ill try
05:35 < waxwing> wait i think i can check how this works locally, hang on
05:37 < waxwing> ok in current code recover fails with old_mnemonic seedphrase
05:37 < waxwing> unless i missed something, but .. that's not quite right, how does my new script work then
05:38 < Bokai_> Ah, btw 
05:38 < Bokai_> the script was a little weird
05:38 < Bokai_> Didnt get any outputs
05:38 < Bokai_> like "Enter seed:"
05:38 < Bokai_> Not sure if that was how you wrote it?
05:39 < Bokai_> Just an empty prompt where I tried to enter the seed, and it created the keys.txt
05:39 < waxwing> Bokai_, that's a silly error on my part: because you redirected stdout with '>' to a file, i think that's why it didn't show
05:39 < waxwing> so doesn't matter
05:39 < Bokai_> thats what I figured
05:40 < Bokai_> or, I mean I didn't think it mattered, since I got a file with keys. :D
05:40 < Bokai_> Unless it somehow was an incorrect list of keys?
05:40 < waxwing> no that'll be fine, don't worry
05:40 < Bokai_> I did try to generate a wallet yesterday
05:40 < Bokai_> ook
05:41 < Bokai_> So, where am I at? :D Should I try what belcher suggested, or is that pointless?
05:41 < waxwing> wait a bit
05:42 < Bokai_> sure
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05:43 < waxwing> Bokai_, ok you can recover to file i think
05:43 < waxwing> basically `python wallet-tool.py recover` works; set bitcoin-rpc-no-history
05:43 < waxwing> enter seedphrase and save to file.
05:43 < waxwing> then follow belcher 's previous suggestion
05:44 < waxwing> <belcher> a good solution should be bitcoin-rpc-no-history and -g 100000 or however high he wants
05:44 < Bokai_> Ok, ill try
05:44 < belcher> which is: once you've set bitcoin-rpc-no-history then you do `python wallet-tool.py -g 10000 --recoversync wallet.jmdat`
05:44 < waxwing> ^
05:44 < belcher> there might be some other options i forgot
05:44 < belcher> i think -p displays private keys
05:44 < waxwing> and ofc segwit=false in POLICY also, before recovery
05:44 < belcher> and native=false i think
05:44 < Bokai_> and native false?
05:45 < Bokai_> yea
05:45 < waxwing> yes but it won't matter
05:45 < waxwing> if segwit is false
05:45 < Bokai_> ok
05:45 < belcher> but if you do find a balance, you can use `python sendpayment.py -N 0 --recoversync wallet.jmdat 0 <external address>` to send the coins somewhere else
05:45 < waxwing> yeah, as long as everything is working as we intended, this will avoid the privkey handling
05:45 < belcher> rescanning the utxo set takes a couple of minutes so be prepared to wait when running wallet-tool.py
05:46 < belcher> thats my suggestion anyway, however using the python file waxwing suggested might also work
05:46 < waxwing> yes, and ofc Core needs to be synced, i don't know if that finished for you yet
05:50 < Bokai_> No it finished last night
05:51 < Bokai_> Running python wallet-tool.py -g 10000 --recoversync wallet.jmdat right now
05:51 < Bokai_> [WARNING]  Connection had broken pipe, attempting reconnect.
05:51 < waxwing> good. in the absence of Core we only have those janky 'here's all the keys you want' methods. but with Core it's possible to be near-as-dammit sure of finding all keys.
05:51 < Bokai_> What is that?
05:51 < waxwing> ignore that message, it happens but we deal with it.
05:51 < Bokai_> ok
05:51 < waxwing> afk
05:52 < Bokai_> Does it matter how much space I allow the node to use?
05:52 < belcher> it does not matter
05:53 < belcher> right now Core is scanning the set of all unspent coins, which all full nodes always have regardless of if you use pruning
05:55 < Bokai_> Finished
05:55 < Bokai_> Balance 0.000
05:55 < Bokai_> hmm
05:55 < Bokai_> :(
05:55 < Bokai_> I'm shit out of luck then?
05:56 < Bokai_> shouldn't at least som dust be there if I actually used this seed?
05:56 < belcher> maybe you transferred it all out
05:57 < belcher> what you could do is recover the wallet with history (you'll need most of the blockchain and you'll need to do a rescan) and then you should be able to see if the wallet ever contained bitcoins
05:57 < Bokai_> Sure
05:58 < Bokai_> But since I have the xpub keys, aren't there online explorers that could do this quicker?
05:58 < Bokai_> At this point I don't care about privacy that much
05:59 < belcher> hmm
05:59 < belcher> you could use the javascript site http://bip32.org/ to create addresses from your xpubs
05:59 < belcher> and then copypaste addresses into electrum to create a watch-only wallet, which when sync'd will tell you the balance
06:00 < belcher> make sure the addresses you generate match the ones which wallet-tool.py tells you
06:01 < Bokai_> Ok, lets see
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06:03 < Bokai_> what should I use as Derivation PAth?
06:05 < belcher> im not sure, i think its something like m/0/0
06:05 < belcher> you'll have to try a few until you get the same addresses from bip32.org as you get from wallet-tool.py
06:07 < Bokai_> Ok, got match with "simple: m/i"
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06:35 < waxwing> he doesn't really need xpubs although that works; the script i wrote already gives all the addresses
06:35 < waxwing> the problem is not lack of access to keys or addresses, it's how to scan for them, which is both a technical and a privacy mess
06:36 < waxwing> see with new version of joinmarket since 2017 you can just import to other wallets like electrum. our original hd path is not compatible with say importing an xpub to electrum and then querying electrum servers.
06:37 < Bokai_> The good thing is that I didn't get that many addresses
06:37 < waxwing> Bokai_, one simple sanity check you could do (over Tor) is check the first 5 addresses in every mixdepth, but especially the 0th; if there is no history seen on block explorers then something is wrong.
06:37 < waxwing> but if there is, it's a strong indication that you at least have the right wallet.
06:37 < waxwing> or first 6 perhaps, but it's overwhelmingly likely you deposited to the first address or two in mixdepth 0
06:38 < Bokai_> Hm
06:38 < waxwing> i.e. m/0/0
06:38 < Bokai_> The output I got was one external address for each mixdepth
06:38 < Bokai_> is that not right, then?
06:39 < waxwing> i'm talking about the output of the script i gave you
06:39 < Bokai_> me too
06:39 < waxwing> it gives you all addresses.
06:39 < waxwing> ? how many lines did it output to the file?
06:39 < Bokai_> Oh, sorry
06:39 < Bokai_> ye you are right
06:40 < waxwing> basically m/0/0/0/0 means account/mixdepth 0, external, index 0
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06:40 < waxwing> and m/0/0/0/1 is index 2, same external branch
06:40 < waxwing> and m/0/0/1/0 is internal(change) branch, still mixdepth 0, index 0
06:41 < waxwing> m/0/account/branch/index
06:41 < waxwing> where account = mixdepth
06:41 < waxwing> the first 5 'deposit addresses' in mixdepth 0 are m/0/0/0/0..4
06:42 < waxwing> (also to state the obvious cross check those addressses with what you got out of wallet-tool display)
06:43 < Bokai_> the wallet tool only gave two xpubs per mixdepth
06:43 < Bokai_> that was what I was referring to before
06:43 < waxwing> yes there is an xpub for the external branch but not for the internal iirc because you shouldn't be giving that out
06:43 < waxwing> giving out xpubs is for deposits
06:44 < Bokai_> How can I cross check those adresses in the outpuyt file from you script with the xpubs?
06:47 < Bokai_> need to go afk, will try some more later
06:47 < Bokai_> thanks for your patience!
06:47 < waxwing> you don't need to cross hceck with the xpubs
06:47 < waxwing> just cross check the addresses
06:47 < waxwing> if even 1 matches there is zero chance of an error realistically
06:47 < waxwing> well, just zero :)
06:48 < Bokai_> you mean see if there is any history on any one of them?
06:48 < Bokai_> Can I do taht ony any blockchain explorer?
06:48 < Bokai_> over tor
06:48 < Bokai_> ;)
06:48 < waxwing> no i'm just saying if the addresses match, you know there isn't some error in recovery or in the script
06:48 < waxwing> well it doesn' tmean that much, it just at least means you're consistent
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12:41 < Traca> Hi
12:41 < Traca> I've been using JM for a while and I just realized that some BTC is missing
12:42 < Traca> I use yieldgenerator for a while and when I saw that have less than often I've checked my wallet balance and it is smaller than it should be
12:42 < Traca> so I run python wallet-tool.py wallet.jmdat history -v4
12:42 < Traca> and I see this message
12:43 < Traca> BUG ERROR: wallet balance (0.0xxxx) does not match balance from history (0.xxxx)
12:43 < Traca> BUG ERROR: wallet utxo count (14) does not match utxo count from history (16)
12:44 < belcher> Traca that means theres unconfirmed transactions
12:44 < belcher> which probably also explains why your balance appears lower
12:45 < Traca> that is what I thought but the error comes from 14 and 16 right?
12:45 < belcher> if you run wallet tool without history you should see your entire balance, because iirc wallet-tool display defaults to display unconfirmed balances
12:45 < Traca> no if I run wallet tool without history balance it is lower
12:45 < Traca> that is what made me check with history to get more info
12:45 < belcher> hmm ok, so it doesnt default to showing unconfirms
12:46 < Traca> and after 14& 16 it has been mixing until 32
12:46 < Traca> in total there is 32 mixes and those errors are frol 14&16 that is what I do not understand
12:46 < belcher> i really doubt theres any reason to worry, the demand for block space is pretty huge right now and its no surprise theres unconfirmed txes
12:46 < belcher> 14 and 16 refers to the UTXO count
12:47 < belcher> probably you had 16 utxos and then theres an unconfirmed coinjoin which spends 4 and creates 2
12:47 < Traca> ok np and I was not worry at all, just wanted to report if there were an error
12:47 < Traca> thanks for your answer, i'll wait some days and check again
12:47 < Traca> thanks
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13:25 < waxwing> belcher, it does default to showing unconfirmeds
13:25 < waxwing> i got confused on this point a month ago and checked it
13:26 < waxwing> it's the same as when we changed it years ago: we didn't want users confused by not seeing coins (because we never got round to implementing showing both) and so it shows unconfirmeds
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