--- Log opened Fri Jan 15 00:00:15 2021 00:57 -!- cbeams [~cbeams@unaffiliated/cbeams] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:58 -!- cbeams [~cbeams@unaffiliated/cbeams] has joined #joinmarket 01:34 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:00 -!- mryandao [~mryandao@gateway/tor-sasl/mryandao] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00 -!- k3tan [~pi@gateway/tor-sasl/k3tan] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:00 -!- asymptotically [~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically] has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 03:00 -!- ghost43_ [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 03:00 -!- technonerd [~techno@gateway/tor-sasl/technonerd] has quit [Write error: Broken pipe] 03:00 -!- coconutanna [~coconutan@gateway/tor-sasl/coconutanna] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:01 -!- cbeams [~cbeams@unaffiliated/cbeams] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:03 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #joinmarket 03:03 -!- technonerd [~techno@gateway/tor-sasl/technonerd] has joined #joinmarket 03:03 -!- k3tan [~pi@gateway/tor-sasl/k3tan] has joined #joinmarket 03:03 -!- asymptotically [~asymptoti@gateway/tor-sasl/asymptotically] has joined #joinmarket 03:03 -!- mryandao [~mryandao@gateway/tor-sasl/mryandao] has joined #joinmarket 03:04 -!- coconutanna [~coconutan@gateway/tor-sasl/coconutanna] has joined #joinmarket 03:21 -!- Richie68Beier [~Richie68B@static.57.1.216.95.clients.your-server.de] has joined #joinmarket 03:36 -!- Traca [~QSDkl@139.28.219.92] has joined #joinmarket 03:42 -!- Traca [~QSDkl@139.28.219.92] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:49 -!- cbeams [~cbeams@unaffiliated/cbeams] has joined #joinmarket 03:54 -!- Traca [~QSDkl@157.162.195.77.rev.sfr.net] has joined #joinmarket 03:58 -!- cbeams [~cbeams@unaffiliated/cbeams] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:59 -!- cbeams [~cbeams@unaffiliated/cbeams] has joined #joinmarket 04:00 -!- cbeams_ [~cbeams@unaffiliated/cbeams] has joined #joinmarket 04:01 -!- cbeams [~cbeams@unaffiliated/cbeams] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:15 -!- Richie68Beier [~Richie68B@static.57.1.216.95.clients.your-server.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 05:17 -!- Traca [~QSDkl@157.162.195.77.rev.sfr.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:36 -!- cbeams_ [~cbeams@unaffiliated/cbeams] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:37 -!- cbeams [~cbeams@unaffiliated/cbeams] has joined #joinmarket 05:38 -!- cbeams [~cbeams@unaffiliated/cbeams] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:53 -!- cbeams [~cbeams@unaffiliated/cbeams] has joined #joinmarket 06:15 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has joined #joinmarket 06:18 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@31.14.40.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:32 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pvesbrlqkdvjdzxd] has joined #joinmarket 06:47 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #joinmarket 07:02 -!- dr-orlovsky [~dr-orlovs@31.14.40.19] has joined #joinmarket 07:13 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:14 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #joinmarket 07:15 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:16 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #joinmarket 07:39 -!- cbeams [~cbeams@unaffiliated/cbeams] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:06 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:13 -!- jonatack [~jon@213.152.162.74] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:15 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has joined #joinmarket 08:19 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #joinmarket 08:22 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:38 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 08:39 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #joinmarket 08:47 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:47 -!- jonatack [~jon@213.152.162.10] has joined #joinmarket 08:55 < waxwing> would appreciate input on this: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/issues/784#issuecomment-761057922 08:56 < waxwing> tldr sweep fees are estimates; this was less important but now fees are big, we can get significantly over-estimated fees which is costly. 09:32 -!- BurminX [~QSDkl@45.152.181.172] has joined #joinmarket 11:01 < belcher_> waxwing i agree with your analysis 11:02 < belcher_> i wonder if an option is adding new protocol methods to maker 11:02 < belcher_> that say something like "i want to do a sweep, i only know the approximate coinjoin amount right now but send me your UTXOs" 11:06 < belcher_> adding a new method is obviously way more hassle, perhaps giving up if the fee turned out to be higher than you expected is the best way for now 11:07 < belcher_> hacks on top of hacks, but thats software sometimes 11:07 < belcher_> ill post in the issue so that theres a continuation of the discussion 11:16 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 11:19 < waxwing> belcher_, ok continue it there, thanks 11:27 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 11:35 -!- BN [~QSDkl@45.152.181.172] has joined #joinmarket 11:38 -!- BurminX [~QSDkl@45.152.181.172] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 12:04 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #joinmarket 12:19 -!- BN [~QSDkl@45.152.181.172] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:19 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pvesbrlqkdvjdzxd] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 14:58 -!- Lightsword [~Lightswor@2604:a880:1:20::1d3:9001] has quit [Quit: ZNC] 14:59 -!- Lightsword [~Lightswor@2604:a880:1:20::1d3:9001] has joined #joinmarket 15:00 -!- martindale [ericfabric@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-krwyremnukehppvk] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:01 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:02 < belcher> waxwing or anyone do you know of any btcpayserver stores which accept payjoin ? 15:03 -!- j375040500[m] [j375040500@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-vzeobjmjgoylyltl] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 15:17 -!- martindale [ericfabric@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ksmyyuajnokcdbfd] has joined #joinmarket 15:20 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: berndj, rabidus, d3spwn, M1 15:21 -!- Netsplit over, joins: berndj, rabidus 15:21 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:21 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 15:22 -!- j375040500[m] [j375040500@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-wkrnxyriaswktvht] has joined #joinmarket 15:22 -!- Netsplit over, joins: M1 15:26 -!- d3spwn [~d3spwn@unaffiliated/d3spwn] has joined #joinmarket 15:29 < waxwing> belcher, https://x0f.org/web/statuses/104778091583959476 15:29 < waxwing> as you can see, quite a while ago, but not looking good 15:29 < waxwing> fwiw i did get one payjoin donation on my server lol 15:29 < belcher> damn 15:29 < belcher> im in the process of making a "payjoin adoption" page on the bitcoin wiki, similar to "bech32 adoption" 15:29 < belcher> however ill just leave that part blank, people can fill it out themselves 15:34 < belcher> joinmarket only supports sending to, right? not receiving bip78 payjoins 15:36 < waxwing> no both. 15:36 < waxwing> and on both gui and command line. 15:37 < belcher> cool 15:38 < waxwing> i tried to get them to update the bip text to reflect this, but it never got merged: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/pull/1022 15:43 < belcher> https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/PayJoin_adoption 15:47 -!- puddinpop [~puddinpop@unaffiliated/puddinpop] has joined #joinmarket 16:06 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: puddinpop 16:08 -!- Netsplit over, joins: puddinpop 17:30 -!- coconutanna [~coconutan@gateway/tor-sasl/coconutanna] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:32 -!- coconutanna [~coconutan@gateway/tor-sasl/coconutanna] has joined #joinmarket 17:50 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 3.0] 17:52 -!- DSRelBot [~DSRelBot@p5de4a85e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:54 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p5de4a85e.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:05 -!- DSRelBot [~DSRelBot@p54866bc8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 18:06 -!- HackRelay [~jmrelayha@p54866bc8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #joinmarket 19:13 -!- mryandao [~mryandao@gateway/tor-sasl/mryandao] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:14 -!- mryandao [~mryandao@gateway/tor-sasl/mryandao] has joined #joinmarket 22:46 -!- dave_uy [~david@108.61.193.26] has quit [Quit: The Lounge - https://thelounge.chat] 22:48 -!- dave_uy [~david@108.61.193.26] has joined #joinmarket 23:07 -!- EvanitoC [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 23:10 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] --- Log closed Sat Jan 16 00:00:17 2021