--- Log opened Thu Jan 28 00:00:28 2021 00:27 -!- Evanito[m] [evanitomat@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-raslcejwbmhuxlqj] has joined #joinmarket 00:32 < Evanito[m]> Ahoy 00:51 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:52 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #joinmarket 01:48 -!- k3tan [~pi@gateway/tor-sasl/k3tan] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:54 -!- k3tan [~pi@gateway/tor-sasl/k3tan] has joined #joinmarket 01:58 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 01:58 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #joinmarket 02:05 -!- Evanito [~Evanito@cpe-76-87-174-228.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:06 -!- belcher_ is now known as belcher 03:13 -!- darosior [~darosior@194.36.189.246] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 03:14 -!- darosior [~darosior@194.36.189.246] has joined #joinmarket 03:20 -!- Vivian21Klein [~Vivian21K@static.57.1.216.95.clients.your-server.de] has joined #joinmarket 05:27 -!- rdymac_ [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rtrvbrteldnwftvj] has joined #joinmarket 05:44 -!- darosior4 [~darosior@194.36.189.246] has joined #joinmarket 05:45 -!- darosior [~darosior@194.36.189.246] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:54 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has joined #joinmarket 05:54 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has quit [Client Quit] 06:14 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Excess Flood] 06:16 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #joinmarket 06:44 < d3spwn> I've heared there's work going on to add support for ckbunker. Is this true? 07:05 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has joined #joinmarket 07:06 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:07 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has joined #joinmarket 07:07 -!- dc81 [~dc81@unaffiliated/dc81] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 07:08 -!- dc81 [~dc81@96.44.143.234] has joined #joinmarket 07:08 -!- dc81 [~dc81@96.44.143.234] has quit [Changing host] 07:08 -!- dc81 [~dc81@unaffiliated/dc81] has joined #joinmarket 07:08 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 07:09 -!- undeath [~undeath@hashcat/team/undeath] has joined #joinmarket 07:22 < waxwing> there's an open issue that mentioned it. but i don't think anyone is working on it, 07:22 < waxwing> this PR is probably the first step. i'm waiting for kristapsk to get back to me on this one: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/pull/756 07:23 < waxwing> this is the issue where it's mentioned: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/issues/663 07:24 -!- dc81 [~dc81@unaffiliated/dc81] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.8.2 - https://znc.in] 07:25 -!- dc81 [~dc81@96.44.143.234] has joined #joinmarket 07:25 -!- dc81 [~dc81@96.44.143.234] has quit [Changing host] 07:25 -!- dc81 [~dc81@unaffiliated/dc81] has joined #joinmarket 07:26 < d3spwn> it was mentioned by openoms in a recent podcast. i see he has a comment in that thread too 07:43 < d3spwn> is there some kind of sponsor program for feature requests? :) 07:46 -!- darosior4 is now known as darosior 07:46 < waxwing> d3spwn, no but i mean it probably helps if you elucidate exactly what the use case you're interested in, is. 07:52 < d3spwn> having an hsm sign transactions (as a maker) so the private key doesn't have to be held in memory 07:52 < d3spwn> as i understand it with ckbunker the coldcard can act as a consumer grade hsm 07:54 < waxwing> it's entirely possible that this could happen, but do note my comments on 'Maker' here: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/issues/663#issuecomment-688342466 and here: https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/issues/663#issuecomment-703617866 07:54 < waxwing> basically the changes we'd make are non-trivial but for sure do-able, whereas i'm not sure how the HW side would "feel" about it. 08:00 < d3spwn> ckbunker allows you to set policies for what tranactions it will sign. i'm not sure if you can limit it enough to avoid a new attack vector where it is tricked to sign malicious transactions 08:01 < waxwing> right. it does sound plausible. the general concept was always "have it only sign txs with an increase in balance" which in itself ought to be enough, notwithstanding the greg sanders attack concept. 08:01 < d3spwn> but that would mean the machine running jm is compromised anyway 08:02 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has joined #joinmarket 08:07 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:07 -!- jonatack [jon@gateway/vpn/airvpn/jonatack] has joined #joinmarket 08:10 -!- jonatack [jon@gateway/vpn/airvpn/jonatack] has quit [Client Quit] 08:13 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has joined #joinmarket 08:19 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:19 -!- jonatack [jon@gateway/vpn/airvpn/jonatack] has joined #joinmarket 08:28 < HackRelay> [hackint-irc/kristapsk] d3spwn, I plan to work on generic hardware wallet / HSM / external wallet support, if somebody sponsors that work I could prioritize it relative to other things in my life :) 09:56 < d3spwn> feel free to contact me when that time comes 10:37 -!- jungly [~jungly@host-212-171-252-80.retail.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:38 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:38 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #joinmarket 11:33 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - 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