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03:46 < belcher> there arent any others that peers generally meet threenp, id guess activity is low because of the high miner fees
03:48 < threenp> got it. guess i should add "joinmarket UI wallet to promote adoptions" to the bucket list :D
03:49 < threenp> would make a lot of sense to have a joinmarket send capable lightning-wallet actually
03:52 < threenp> btw re https://github.com/JoinMarket-Org/joinmarket-clientserver/issues/415, do you know if anyone started working on that already? I looked just a bit closer at matrix and think it could make sense - could try to throw together a poc unless the door's closed on that from your PoV ^^
03:55 < belcher> im afraid i dont know
03:58 < waxwing> threenp, not closed, no, feel free to give it a try.
03:59 < waxwing> i did the same thing about 3 years ago and found that, at least as set up, matrix was really pretty slow.
03:59 < threenp> i'm not gonna promise to come up with something that ends useful, but sounds like a fun exercise 
04:00 < waxwing> running a scan of JM coinjoins for the last day, should be finished in a minute. re: low levels of activity.
04:00 < waxwing> yes it is pretty interesting/fun, but, let me know if you have problems figuring out how to do it, i may be able to help
04:00 < threenp> and yeah, synapse is a goddamn pig but I think a dedicated HS should be super lean esp if run on dendrite or conduit
04:03 < waxwing> ok i saw 29 matches in the last 130 or so blocks so around 1 day ... i mean, it's not high but it's not so low considering high fees.
04:04 < waxwing> false positive rate tends to be very low with that algo, though i'm not backing it up with stats. btw the script `scripts/snicker/snicker-finder.py` is what i used, it's in master. it picks up JM coinjoins with -j flag.
04:04 < threenp> that's useful info. I'm just a bit confused since I'm a maker priced in the top cheapest for extended periods and I have < 1 / day
04:05 < waxwing> we deliberately don't give as much weight to low fees as you might think: takers will almost all use 'random under a maximum allowable fee'
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04:05 < threenp> Aaaah
04:05 < waxwing> rather than 'heavily prefer cheaper', as the latter makes sybilling easier
04:05 < waxwing> there is also the issue of whether the amount you offer fits the size of the coinjoin requested of course
04:06 < waxwing> for that, the more you have, the more joins you are a valid candidate for
04:06 < threenp> makes sense
04:06 < waxwing> but in any case 1/day doesn't sound low to me, considering nowadays we have maybe 150-200 makers a lot of the time.
04:07 < threenp> btw i noticed in the OB a lot of orders are from one entity while the yg-privacyenhanced  script from the repo using will just do single order per process. Guesisng that running several parallel from the same wallet is not safe.
04:07 < threenp> are these people writing their own market makers or is there a way to do it in the public domain?
04:09 < waxwing> i don't think we currently have a multi-offer bot (though joinmarket-org/custom-scripts repo exists, there is only one custom script in it right now)
04:09 < waxwing> but it doesn't increase chance of selection in taker algo; it might be advantageous in other ways though
04:10 < threenp> yeah, if nothing else it would be nice to have both a reloffer and an absoffer up at the same time
04:11 < waxwing> it's not too hard to subclass YieldGeneratorBasic and just go from there. offers are returned as a list, iirc in `oid_to_order` (confusing name but w/e)
04:13 < threenp> you're right, doesn't look too hairy :)
04:16 < waxwing> sorry i was thinking of `create_my_orders()` - that's the one that returns the offers/orders as a list. so that's where you'd have to change it to return multiple.
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