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02:14 < qubenix> dan held was on preston pysh's show talking about earning yield, and he talked about joinmarket as an option. jm talk starts at 19:40: https://www.theinvestorspodcast.com/bitcoin-fundamentals/btc016-bitcoin-super-cycle-w-dan-held/
02:18 < qubenix> huh, dan said that as an "added benefit" you get your coins mixed too. a departure from the last comments i heard from him on coinjoin where he called it "likely illegal".
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02:33 < qubenix> looks like he walked back those negative coinjoin comments a while ago
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02:35 < waxwing> people who are more public business focused are *usually* (not always) more negative about coinjoin, if they have an opinion at all, because it's an explicit rejection of traceability (sorry if stating the obvious)
02:35 < waxwing> but yeah it's nice to hear people mentioning JM in a yield context here and there
02:36 < waxwing> i remember being marginally irritated (only marginally) when nik bhatia started telling everyone he'd somehow invented the concept of risk free rate wrt Lightning, we were talking about that here in 2015 :)
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02:36 < waxwing> i mean clearly it's likely to be far more significant in LN over time, so .. it's OK :)
02:37 < waxwing> the general point however, that cryptocurrency smart contract yield for participation is a much more fundamental type of 'risk-freeness' cf say US treasuries, is really significant i suspect
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04:51 < waxwing> i've written some post mortem comments about this bug: https://x0f.org/web/statuses/105865422813398185
05:05 < belcher> good read
05:05 < belcher> testing how to avoid privacy failures seems hard as hell, since it seems to require a lot of creativity, it feels like it takes a human to catch something like the deadbeef leak
05:13 < waxwing> yeah i also think that's the most interesting/difficult question raised by this bug
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06:24 < mcv> undeath - kudos for spotting 
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07:23 < waxwing> qubenix, btw i got very close to finishing setting up payjoin via daemon but i hit an outlandishly obscure bug in the interaction between Qt and twisted; i spent like 4 days on it so far
07:23 < waxwing> (and i'm busy with a bunch of other stuff too, not only JM related)
07:23 < waxwing> i want to finish it to get it out of the way but .. not finished yet sorry
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11:05 < qubenix> waxwing: thanks for your hard work. no need to apologize.
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