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Did your body clock recover yet? 14:23 < aj> rusty: mostly! 14:24 < aj> rusty: just a couple of weeks 'til you break yours i guess? 14:24 < rusty> aj: yeah :( I'll hopefully have this damn HTLC state sorted before then, and can spend some cycles on IBLT. 14:25 < aj> rusty: IBLT? 14:26 < rusty> aj: http://rustyrussell.github.io/pettycoin/2014/11/05/Playing-with-invertible-bloom-lookup-tables-and-bitcoin-transactions.html et al 14:30 < aj> rusty: aha. for block announcements, right, not a lightning specific use? 14:31 < rusty> aj: yes... I've been splitting my time between long-term scalability and short term. 14:37 < aj> rusty: if you didn't read list mails yet, i poked at the svg state generation and got http://azure.erisian.com.au/~aj/tmp/lightstate/statepy.svg fwiw; seemed a more helpful overview of state transitions 14:38 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:11 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 15:20 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 16:01 -!- richardkiss [~richardki@173-228-123-155.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #lightning-dev 16:37 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 16:46 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:16 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 17:57 -!- trippysalmon [rob@2001:984:6466:0:acb0:1d6:1cb1:2149] has joined #lightning-dev 18:06 -!- trippysalmon [rob@2001:984:6466:0:acb0:1d6:1cb1:2149] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 18:35 -!- jtimon_ [~quassel@m952736d0.tmodns.net] has joined #lightning-dev 18:37 -!- jtimon [~quassel@m952736d0.tmodns.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:46 < rusty> So, for mapping lightning addresses, I'm thinking of (ab)using bittorrent's DHT, a-la http://www.bittorrent.org/beps/bep_0044.html 19:50 < rusty> We could actually use BEP 5 for mapping node addresses to IPv4 addr + port (seems not to support IPv6 though). 21:31 < CodeShark> What about SSR 21:32 < CodeShark> does torrent use ring 21:32 < CodeShark> Virtual rings? 21:58 * rusty googles SSR... 21:58 < rusty> Society for the Study of Reproduction? 21:58 < rusty> Ah, Scalable Source Routing. 21:59 < rusty> It's not the routing that I'm talking about, it's finding the IP address (or TOR address, etc) of node N. 23:28 -!- mjerr [~mjerr@p578EB313.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lightning-dev