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10:02 < maaku> aj: that explanation doesn't seem to be sufficient. in the ideal case we're not actually hitting the chain, so how are things being "claimed"?
10:49 < matsjj> maaku, indeed, I think he was confused over the question. At least I understand it the way, whether it is possible to have payments simultaneously, and it is possible to have 2 payments that both only get released if 2 secret/preimages get revealed. an atomic trade basically
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12:10 < matsjj_> rusty, started hacking up some of the specifications, review highly appreciated https://github.com/lightning-core/lightning/pulls
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12:14 < matsjj_> rusty, real specifications like what packages and messages actually look like are still missing too, but I was too lazy to write these up yet
12:15 <@rusty> matsjj_: cool!  I will revise for v3, which modified the key generation a little.
12:15 <@rusty> matsjj_: yeah, that's going to be a big one.
12:15 < matsjj_> rusty, but I actually finished the basic skeleton of the gossip layer
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19:15 < aj> rusty: your 11/12 example eventually makes it compulsory, not optional like you wrote
19:15 <@rusty> aj: hmm, oops...
19:17 <@rusty> thx, fxed
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