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16:42 < roasbeef> rusty: rev pubkeys still support multiple in-flight commitments
16:43 < roasbeef> as you detailed in one of your last ML posts, both side being a session my sending M revocations. these revocations have a zero'd out preimage, and are only meant to populate the "initial revocation window" 
16:44 < roasbeef> revoations sent by either side once commitment updates begin tack onto the end of their respective revocation window, so M+1, M+2, etc
16:44 < roasbeef> we currently do the above upon session initiation, before sending any commitment updates
16:44 < roasbeef> one can tune M to govern the degree of desynchronization permitted amongst commitment chains 
16:45 < roasbeef> atm in our code the value is a compile time constant, but future fancier stuff might increase/decrease the size of the window in response to a certain update related trigger 
16:47 < roasbeef> both side begin*
16:47 < luke-jr> rusty isn't here..?
16:48 < luke-jr> why is BOLT not just a range of BIPs? <.<
16:48 < roasbeef> kek, i'm assuming he'll read the logs upon return :p
16:48 < roasbeef> why should they be? for the most part they're orthogonal
16:49 < roasbeef> future LN related BIPs will likely emerge to define integration with BIP 70/75 w.r.t payment negotation 
16:49 < roasbeef> also possibly signaling a bitcion node is also an ln node via service bits or someting 
16:50 < luke-jr> Lightning is part of Bitcoin
16:50 < roasbeef> some BOLT's will likely also cover cross-chain stuff, which is way out of the scope of BIPs
16:51 < luke-jr> not really, considering sidechains
16:51 < roasbeef> yeh it is, but it seems like BIPs mostly cover full-node compatability avenues, p2p upgrades, and wallet compat
16:51 < luke-jr> BIPs cover Bitcoin as a whole
16:51 < luke-jr> anything that requires standards coordination/interop
16:52 < roasbeef>  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:54 < roasbeef> in the end BOLTs will be a full lightning node specification, feels like the process should remain separate from BIPs. we're able to move at our own pace (mostly) distinct from bitcoin happenings
16:55 < roasbeef> perhaps the two will be merged down the line  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
16:58 < luke-jr> BIPs don't slow/rush pace either :P
16:58  * luke-jr tempted to just assign BIPs to BOLTs
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22:03 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] braydonf opened pull request #31: INSTALL.md: update install details for ubuntu 16.04 (master...doc/install-16-04) https://git.io/v6uW1
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