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It's my understanding that routing for up to 100k nodes is practically good to go, what's the plan for beyond that? 06:12 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 06:15 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 06:17 -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@cpe-76-179-216-23.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 06:18 < murchandamus> Or can someone point me to an elaboration of that point? 06:20 -!- Stephen__ [~stephenm3@cpe-76-179-216-23.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 06:20 -!- StephenM_ [~stephenm3@cpe-76-179-216-23.maine.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 06:22 -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@cpe-76-179-216-23.maine.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 06:30 -!- StephenM347 [~stephenm3@cpe-76-179-216-23.maine.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 06:32 -!- Stephen__ [~stephenm3@cpe-76-179-216-23.maine.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 06:33 -!- StephenM_ 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-lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] pm47 closed pull request #66: BOLT 3: Add test vectors for transactions (master...tx-testvectors) https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/pull/66 09:46 -!- jannes [~jannes@095-097-246-234.static.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:17 < cdecker> murchandamus: rusty has written up some estimates about the routing table size here: https://medium.com/@rusty_lightning/lightning-routing-rough-background-dbac930abbad 10:18 < cdecker> That'd get us easily into the 100k range 10:18 < cdecker> Some overhead is added, but we should be able to start off with that 10:22 -!- BW^- [~Bwbwbwbwb@unaffiliated/bw-/x-2460362] has quit [Quit: BW^-] 10:23 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 10:46 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:46 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 10:55 < murchandamus> cdecker: Thanks that was exactly what I was looking for. 11:06 < arubi> in other news, my node just became op of #lightning-nodes on lfnet :), is that channel still in use? 11:09 -!- rusty2 [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 11:09 -!- jtimon [~quassel@197.red-88-0-200.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:11 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:12 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 11:28 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 11:35 -!- Netsplit *.net <-> *.split quits: Ylbam, Taek, PaulCape_, jl2012, luke-jr 11:35 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@2001:470:5:265:a45d:823b:2d27:961c] has joined #lightning-dev 11:36 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@2001:470:5:265:a45d:823b:2d27:961c] has quit [Changing host] 11:36 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 11:36 -!- Netsplit over, joins: Taek 11:38 -!- PaulCapestany 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(master...transport-message-test-vectors) https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/pull/75 21:25 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell closed pull request #74: BOLT 3: Add test vectors for transactions (take 2) (master...tx-testvectors-2) https://git.io/vMYXT 21:26 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell pushed 3 new commits to master: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/compare/828eda61df5a...7751ee11f28b 21:26 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master 4339f03 pm47: moved weight computation to Appendix section, fixed index 21:26 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master 2c4cd03 pm47: added a section about who pays the fee 21:26 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master 7751ee1 pm47: added test vectors for transactions 21:34 -!- bitcog1 [~douglas@dhcp-5-186-121-138.cgn.ip.fibianet.dk] has joined #lightning-dev 21:39 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell closed pull request #70: witnessScript is part of witness + null dummy for OP_CHECKMULTISIG (master...witness) https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/pull/70 21:46 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 21:54 -!- bitcog1 [~douglas@dhcp-5-186-121-138.cgn.ip.fibianet.dk] has left #lightning-dev [] 22:38 -!- rusty2 [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 23:07 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds]