--- Day changed Sat Feb 11 2017 00:12 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@p2573165-ipngn21901marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:13 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@p2573165-ipngn21901marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 00:44 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@p2573165-ipngn21901marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:59 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em119-72-195-113.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 01:14 -!- takayaim_ [~takayaima@em1-115-197-67.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 01:17 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em119-72-195-113.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:22 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell opened pull request #106: BOLT 2: specify requirement not to send fulfill until both sides locked in (master...document-lockin-requirement) https://git.io/vDVSN 02:02 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell opened pull request #107: Fix test vectors minor (master...fix-test-vectors-minor) https://git.io/vDVHR 02:09 -!- takayaim_ [~takayaima@em1-115-197-67.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:13 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-197-67.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 02:19 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-197-67.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 02:27 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-197-67.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 02:46 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-197-67.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:19 -!- AmikoPay_CJP [~AmikoPay_@a83-163-77-195.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #lightning-dev 03:58 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-197-67.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 04:20 -!- AmikoPay_CJP [~AmikoPay_@a83-163-77-195.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 04:58 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 05:01 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 05:01 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-197-67.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:31 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-197-67.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 06:51 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-197-67.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:18 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wcydvssvajltbjlw] has joined #lightning-dev 07:38 -!- jtimon [~quassel@245.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 10:41 -!- jtimon [~quassel@245.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:24 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 11:42 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:08 -!- jtimon [~quassel@245.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 13:49 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@ip252-169-64-186.ct.co.cr] has joined #lightning-dev 13:54 -!- devrandom [~devrandom@unaffiliated/niftyzero1] has joined #lightning-dev 13:55 < devrandom> hey, I'm going over the paper and have a question 13:56 < devrandom> I'm wondering about the timing of exchanging the Breach Remedy txs vs the new Commitment txs 13:57 < devrandom> if the BRs are exchanged first, and they fail to exchange the new commitments, they can't close the channel anymore 13:58 < devrandom> and if the Commitments are exchanged first, there's nothing to prevent the old commitments from being used 13:59 < devrandom> I guess we can consider the micropayment to be incomplete until the BRs are exchanged. Is that the thinking? 14:00 < devrandom> i.e. while the BRs are not exchanged yet, the micropayment is not "confirmed" and the offchain service shouldn't be provided 14:00 < devrandom> so it's OK for either the old or the new commitment to be broadcast 14:14 -!- CubicEar_ [~cubiceart@201.191.199.156] has joined #lightning-dev 14:17 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@ip252-169-64-186.ct.co.cr] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:18 -!- CubicEar_ [~cubiceart@201.191.199.156] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:42 -!- mol [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #lightning-dev 14:46 -!- molz_ [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:34 -!- FiveBroDeepBook [~gk.1wm.su@2606:f180:1:2ea:2ea:af60:f0b8:8f26] has joined #lightning-dev 17:34 -!- FiveBroDeepBook [~gk.1wm.su@2606:f180:1:2ea:2ea:af60:f0b8:8f26] has left #lightning-dev [] 18:01 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-194-36.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 18:10 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-194-36.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:11 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-194-36.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 18:23 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wcydvssvajltbjlw] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 18:41 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-194-36.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:46 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-194-36.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 18:53 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-194-36.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:11 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@p6145005-ipngn29901marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 19:22 -!- jtimon [~quassel@245.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:27 -!- gonzoucab_ [~gonzoucab@190.153.6.86] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:20 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@p6145005-ipngn29901marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@p6145005-ipngn29901marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 20:22 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@p6145005-ipngn29901marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:36 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@201.191.199.201] has joined #lightning-dev 21:17 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@201.191.199.201] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 21:28 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@201.191.199.195] has joined #lightning-dev 21:36 -!- murchandamus [~murchghos@ghostdub.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:37 -!- wasi [~wasi@gateway/tor-sasl/wasi] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:42 -!- wasi [~wasi@gateway/tor-sasl/wasi] has joined #lightning-dev 21:43 -!- JackH [~laptop@79-73-188-131.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:19 -!- murchandamus [~murchghos@ghostdub.de] has joined #lightning-dev 22:22 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-199-153.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 22:26 -!- murchandamus [~murchghos@ghostdub.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:27 -!- FiveBroDeepBook [~gk.1wm.su@2606:f180:2:2f4:2f4:830f:72a5:8cb7] has joined #lightning-dev 22:27 -!- FiveBroDeepBook [~gk.1wm.su@2606:f180:2:2f4:2f4:830f:72a5:8cb7] has left #lightning-dev [] 22:31 -!- murchandamus [~murchghos@ghostdub.de] has joined #lightning-dev 22:47 -!- takayaim_ [~takayaima@p6145005-ipngn29901marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 22:48 -!- takayaim_ [~takayaima@p6145005-ipngn29901marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:50 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-199-153.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:58 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-199-153.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 22:59 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@201.191.199.195] has quit [] 23:56 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jlfdsyrfkbmtbmgw] has joined #lightning-dev