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Reading the LN paper, it looks like hashlocks are not used in regular bidirectional payment channels (they are introduced later, after bidirectional payment channels have been explained, and appear to be applied only when routing payments towards other entities), private keys are exchanged instead as a guarantee against cheating when creating a new commitment transaction. I remember to hav 08:09 < rael_wiki> hashlocks were used for simple bidirectional payment channels in LN instead of exchanging private keys. Which of the two is correct in the current version of LN? 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Basically your scheme, but we'll add a limit later if necessary. 15:54 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@ip92-176-15-186.ct.co.cr] has quit [] 16:04 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hgtrnepdhihksgca] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 16:07 -!- jeremyrubin [~jeremyrub@biohazard-cafe.mit.edu] has joined #lightning-dev 16:07 -!- rusty2 is now known as rusty 16:09 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:10 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-179-3.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:32 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 16:58 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 16:58 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 16:59 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-25-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 17:10 -!- wraithm [~textual@38.126.31.226] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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