--- Day changed Mon Mar 13 2017 00:10 -!- starkness [~starkness@104-193-168-51.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has quit [Quit: starkness] 00:36 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:44 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 00:48 -!- aalex__ [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #lightning-dev 01:09 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 01:23 -!- aalex__ [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:24 -!- cbits [~cbits@47.148.176.74] has joined #lightning-dev 01:33 -!- cbits [~cbits@47.148.176.74] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 01:39 < maaku> rusty: "there's no sane way to specify what UTXOs you're interested in" <-- I'm talking about bitcoin-tx and the raw transaction api. I'm pretty sure this doesn't apply? 01:40 < maaku> bitcoin core wallet is junk, and should be junked imho, but I see no reason not to use the raw api features 01:43 -!- JackH [~laptop@79-73-184-8.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #lightning-dev 01:46 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@p2702029-ipngn22301marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 01:53 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 02:23 -!- jtimon [~quassel@70.30.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 02:57 < stevenroose> maaku, indeed it does not really matter a lot what node implementation you use. there is probably some differences in the API's of bitcoind vs btcd or bitcoin core wallet vs btcwallet 02:58 < stevenroose> I guess the major reason is because they both are written in Golang, so it's easier to share contributors between the two projects. Also, btcd has a very nice RPC API wrapper in Go btcrpcclient 03:26 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@p2702029-ipngn22301marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:27 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@p2702029-ipngn22301marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 03:28 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@p2702029-ipngn22301marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:28 < maaku> well if you're using the node for watching for channel closure, I'd say it matters a lot which one you use. using a non-core consensus engine puts your channel funds at risk if there is a consensus split 03:28 < maaku> but I digress 03:40 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 03:41 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 03:43 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 03:46 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 03:47 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em119-72-193-242.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 04:02 < stevenroose> maaku, even though that is currently true, it's not at all a healthy situation. network consensus should not be in the hands of one single implementation 04:03 < stevenroose> besides, alternative implementations have the foremost incentive to prevent consensus failures at all times 04:03 < stevenroose> in the future, though, I think it will get quite common to outsource channel closing to the public 04:04 < stevenroose> there has been done a lot of research into that, f.e. https://youtu.be/Gzg_u9gHc5Q?t=2873 04:05 -!- isle2983 [~isle2983@46.166.137.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:34 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:47 -!- takayaim_ [~takayaima@mo1-74-53-40.air.mopera.net] has joined #lightning-dev 04:48 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em119-72-193-242.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:49 -githubby:#lightning-dev- [lightning] cdecker deleted test-speedups at d3dc550: https://git.io/vy6wt 05:02 -!- takayaim_ [~takayaima@mo1-74-53-40.air.mopera.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:38 -!- dabura667_ [uid43070@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yfpaidclibjqpnhp] has joined #lightning-dev 05:40 -!- crescendo [~mozart@unaffiliated/crescendo] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 06:11 -!- isle2983 [~isle2983@162.216.46.58] has joined #lightning-dev 06:20 -!- sstone [~sstone@3.46-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com] has joined #lightning-dev 06:21 -!- aalex__ [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has joined #lightning-dev 06:41 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 07:01 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-197-3.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 07:44 -!- dabura667_ [uid43070@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-yfpaidclibjqpnhp] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:47 -!- aalex__ [~aalex@64.187.177.58] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 08:29 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has left #lightning-dev ["Quitte"] 08:29 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-197-3.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:29 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-197-3.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 08:34 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 08:34 -!- takayaimai [~takayaima@em1-115-197-3.pool.e-mobile.ne.jp] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:50 -!- abpa [~abpa@96-82-80-25-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:09 -!- stonecoldpat [62d4926b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.212.146.107] has joined #lightning-dev 09:10 < stonecoldpat> stevenroose: duplex is cdecker's scheme: http://www.tik.ee.ethz.ch/file/716b955c130e6c703fac336ea17b1670/duplex-micropayment-channels.pdf 09:11 < cdecker> Right, I knew I was supposed to post that link somewhere but got distracted ^^ 09:11 < cdecker> Thanks stonecoldpat 09:13 < stonecoldpat> np :) 09:13 < stevenroose> aha, thanks, stonecoldpat 09:13 < stevenroose> will give it a read tonight! 09:34 -!- stonecoldpat [62d4926b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.98.212.146.107] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 10:22 -!- sstone [~sstone@3.46-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:34 -!- nemgun [~nemgun@105.101.193.63] has joined #lightning-dev 10:34 < nemgun> hello lightning 10:57 -!- rusty2 [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 10:59 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:00 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 11:00 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:04 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:05 -!- rusty2 [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 11:11 -!- gk-- [~1wm-su@d43150.artnet.gda.pl] has joined #lightning-dev 11:12 -!- ThomasV 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