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seconds] 21:25 < rusty> adiabat, roasbeef, aj: seems like we'll need something like this soon, so I've created a giant strawman to burn down: https://github.com/rustyrussell/lightning-payencode 21:30 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 21:35 < TD-Linux> rusty, yay I can stop displaying lightning-pay clis to paste :) 21:44 < rusty> TD-Linux: shudder... yes :) 21:52 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@50-1-104-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #lightning-dev 21:54 -!- dabura667 [uid43070@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ofpforhaygccykfr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 21:56 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@50-1-104-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:59 -!- CubicEarth [~cubiceart@50-1-104-188.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com] has joined #lightning-dev 22:05 <+roasbeef> rusty: +1 for the tagged format 22:05 < rusty> roasbeef: it's almost human readable, FTW :) 22:05 <+roasbeef> that's a lotta q's at the end lol 22:06 < rusty> roasbeef: that's the dummy signature which is 64 zeroes. 22:06 <+roasbeef> ah, makes sense 22:07 <+roasbeef> does the amount really need to be human readble though? 22:08 <+roasbeef> nice to spot check I guess, could shrink the size a bit if it was just included 22:08 <+roasbeef> hmmm, also I'd say pubkey rather than the chanid 22:08 <+roasbeef> that itself with multi-chain is ambigous 22:09 < rusty> roasbeef: well, yeah, but that's what prefix is for really. 22:09 <+roasbeef> :/ your routing takes as input a channel id? 22:09 < rusty> roasbeef: and pubkey is **much** bigger than chanid, which could be shrunk further. 22:09 <+roasbeef> that's like routing to an _edge_ rather than a vertex 22:10 < rusty> roasbeef: yes, hence stealing the high bit indicating direction. That will be a problem in 200,000 years though.... 22:10 <+roasbeef> direction? i just mean path finding to an edge is weird, and I don't think any of our code works like that 22:10 < rusty> roasbeef: mapping chanid to node is pretty easy though. 22:11 < rusty> roasbeef: it's just a convenient shorthand. 22:11 -!- philhug [~philhug@vl4.nuke.abacus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:11 < rusty> (which we already do in gossip messages) 22:12 <+roasbeef> fair enough, lnd's db indeed does have such a mapping 22:12 <+roasbeef> see what you mean about signalling the direcvtion now 22:12 < rusty> Pubkey makes it more standalone, which would be nice; you can't actually validate the sig in this format without doing that lookup (unless they supply extra routes, which *do* have the pubkey) 22:12 < rusty> Damn, gtg pick up kids. 22:13 <+roasbeef> well, you can actually do pubkey recovery on the sig, verify it's in the graph 22:13 <+roasbeef> lnd has a signmessage/verifymessage that does something similar 22:14 <+roasbeef> rusty: thanks for getting the ball rolling with this! 22:17 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:18 <+roasbeef> but yeh with the straight pubkey any client can do verification without needing that mapping 22:20 -!- juscamarena_ [~justin@47.148.176.74] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:22 -!- juscamarena_ [~justin@47.148.176.74] has joined #lightning-dev 22:27 <+roasbeef> also the fallback needs to be at least 33 bytes for p2wsh 22:37 -!- juscamarena_ [~justin@47.148.176.74] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:39 -!- juscamarena_ [~justin@47.148.176.74] has joined #lightning-dev 22:41 -!- jtimon [~quassel@9.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 22:41 -!- juscamarena_ [~justin@47.148.176.74] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:52 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:19 -!- starkness [~starkness@104-193-168-51.PUBLIC.monkeybrains.net] has joined #lightning-dev 23:56 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds]