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Does all off chain happen on the back end or is it a bit more complicated? 09:36 < cdecker> We're working hard to make it as transparent as possible 09:36 < cdecker> From a UI point of view it should look pretty much like any bitcoin wallet 09:36 < cdecker> List of transfers and a balance, all the magic happens in the background 09:37 < cdecker> IMO you should never even have to think about what a channel is and how to allocate funds to them 09:38 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:39 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 09:43 -!- sstone [~fabrice@185.186.24.109.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:50 < pavle_> That was exactly my concern cdecker, I do not want to think about channels. 09:50 < pavle_> Is there a visual presentation of it somewhere? I'd really like to see it, and experience it if possible. 09:51 < cdecker> We aren't there yet, but eclair has a simple interface 09:51 < pavle_> I am excited about this technology. But my main concern was that it will be too complicated. 09:51 < cdecker> You still have to manually open channels but after that it's a breeze 09:51 < cdecker> Nah, I'm confident that it'll work out fine 09:51 < cdecker> :-) 09:52 < pavle_> It's just hard for me to visually understand how it will work, been reading about it for a while. 09:54 < cdecker> Oh you mean the protocol itself? 09:56 < pavle_> Hm, the transactions, the channel and stuff. I'm sorry if I'm being too ignorant. 09:58 < cdecker> No problem, it's a hard topic 10:01 < cdecker> I gave a presentation a while ago on the basics of lightning, might be a good place to start 10:01 < cdecker> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ5LKyHtSiE 10:05 < pavle_> Thanks so much, I guess this is my Netflix for tonight, thank you. 10:08 < pavle_> I bet nobody asked you this so far, but, can we expect this by the end of 2018, or is a prediction like this too optimistic? 10:30 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70-36-49-138.dyn.novuscom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:45 < cdecker> The canonical answer is "It's Ready in Two Weeks (TM)" :-) 10:45 < cdecker> We're definitely working on releasing it soon 10:46 < cdecker> But we prefer not to release unless we can be reasonably sure that it works 10:46 < cdecker> But testing is show that it mostly works, and we will address the last few things as soon as possible 10:51 < pavle_> Wow, that's great, thanks so much. 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