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09:35 < cluelessperson> Anyone here? :)
09:36 < cdecker> cluelessperson, yes :-)
09:37  * cluelessperson is nervous and doesn't know what to ask.
09:37 < cdecker> Hehe
09:42 < cluelessperson> I really hope lightning comes through soon
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09:45 < JackH> cdecker, when can businesses try this out? we have our own set of tests to do
09:46 < JackH> would it for now be advisable to at least implement with the current API's exposed in the lnd implementations? or are there significant changes coming?
09:46 < cdecker> Right, we're working on it, and we're releasing clients as soon as we feel it's safe to do so
09:47 < cdecker> Dunno about lnd, c-lightning will likely keep the RPC as is, maybe retire some of the dev-specific options
09:55 < kanzure> https://medium.com/@lightning_network/lightning-protocol-1-0-compatibility-achieved-f9d22b7b19c4
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11:01 < jb55> cdecker: how's the test coverage, do those 75 tests cover all of the spec?
11:01 < jb55> or could there still be edge cases
11:02 < cdecker> There might be some edge cases and we're continuing to fix them while we find them
11:02 < cdecker> But this covers a vast majority of the spec
11:02 < jb55> nice. I'll try to break it again :)
11:03 < cdecker> Please do, and don't forget to file issues when you do
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11:04 < jb55> aye     
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13:17 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] dimitris-t opened pull request #306: Fixed typos (master...master) https://git.io/vbCUk
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13:23 < achow101> how does c-lightning compare to lnd?
13:24 <+roasbeef> it's written in c
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13:25 <+roasbeef> c-lightning uses bitcoind as a backend atm, lnd uses neutrino or btcd as a backend atm
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13:25 <+roasbeef> c-lightning uses an http-json rpc protocol, lnd uses gRPC and http-rest for command
13:26 <+roasbeef> there's a PR to add bitcoind support to lnd: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/pull/447
13:26 < renlord> roasbeef: does lnd require bitcoin-cli?
13:27 < cdecker> You're trying to get to bitcoind and we're trying to ween off of it :-)
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13:27 < achow101> I'd like to use bitcoind because having two copies of the blockchain is kinda annoying
13:27 < achow101> (tried syncing btcd and ran out of disk space)
13:27 <+roasbeef> c-lightning is split across multiple processes that use IPC amongst each other, lnd is a single process (if using the light client mode, if not it's connecting to some node) 
13:27 <+roasbeef> testnet is around 14GB atm iirc 
13:28 <+roasbeef> lol I think it's actually bigger than litecoin mainnet last time I checked :p
13:28 < achow101> I was syncing both testnet and mainnet
13:28 <+roasbeef> ah yeh that'll be a good bit of disk space, btcd dosesn't have pruning implemented yet 
13:28 < achow101> what about in terms of usability?
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13:29 <+roasbeef> renlord: no
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13:57 < mlz> achow101, you don't have to install btcd, just install Go and lnd then connect your neutrino to the LND faucet or Bitrefill's btcd node
14:00 < mlz> lnd --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.testnet --debuglevel=debug --neutrino.active --neutrino.connect=lnd.bitrefill.com:9735
14:01 < mlz> or: lnd --bitcoin.active --bitcoin.testnet --debuglevel=debug --neutrino.active --neutrino.connect=faucet.lightning.community:9735
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14:04 < Rozal> Hey what’s that lightning network achieve compatibility?
14:04 < Rozal> What does that mean?
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14:06 < urbanonymous> Hello, python dev here. Any idea about the Tx/s that we are going to be able to process in bitcoin with lightning?
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14:11 <+roasbeef> Rozal: there are multipl implementations, the protocol is defined in the spec, this means that we've reached a good point of compatability between the node implementations 
14:12 < Rozal> Bitcoin nodes roasbeef ?
14:12 <+roasbeef> lightning nodes 
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14:12 < disdawindows> Hello there
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14:13 <+roasbeef> they speak a protocol defined here, Rozal: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/
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14:14 < cdecker> Rozal: our benchmarks on the unoptimized implementation show about 150 tx/s/channel and the global rate increases with every channel created
14:15 < Rozal> A little cryptic for my current attention span, roasbeef/cdecker
14:15 <+roasbeef> kek     
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14:15 < Rozal> Does this mean we’re near implementation into bitcoin?
14:16 < mlz> Rozal, think of IRC, Slack, Discord.. and how they can connect to each other, and you can connect to other users on different platforms to chat, get it?
14:16 <+roasbeef> Rozal: Lightning is a protocol, the implementations speak the same protocol, and can now talk to each other with a good degree of compatability
14:16 < Rozal> How many different implementation are there, and I assume they will come live at different times
14:16 < mlz> 3     
14:16 <+roasbeef> Rozal: did you read the post? :) 
14:16 < mlz> drink less, Rozal  :P
14:17 < Rozal> heh if I was sitting down concentrating, I could grasp what your saying
14:18 < Rozal> Just read the news on reddit, so just wanted clarity on it. You answered it, and I kinda get it, I’ll read it further later for a deeper understanding
14:18 <+roasbeef> fsho
14:19 < Rozal> do you even eat roastbeef
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14:27 < cdecker> He drinks coffee ^^
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14:51 < bsm117532> Congrats on the successful test guys!
14:54 < aj> congrats on making test case completion a news item!
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15:19 < mlz> bsm117532, aj, hello and thank you, now if you could join the LN dev... lol :D 
15:19 < bsm117532> I'll see what I can do ;-)
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15:34 < achow101> mlz: I have a policy of full nodes only or SPV connected to full nodes I control
15:36 < mlz> excuses excuses :P
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15:50 < mlz> achow101, it's just testnet, if someone steals your test coins, we all can give you more :P
15:51 < achow101> mlz: I'm doing things on testnet in the same way I do things on mainnet
15:52 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] shannona opened pull request #308: Edits for BOLT-07 (master...bolt7-edit) https://git.io/vbC8X
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16:04 < mlz> achow101, right, and it would make sense if there's a lot of money at stake, but we're talking about "micropayments" to spend on miniscule expenses like a cup of coffee here.. hence we have light wallets for LN
16:05 < mlz> achow101, and it would be great if you could test the system since you're a dev 
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16:15 < achow101> mlz: I'll test it, eventually. whenever I have time
16:15 < mlz> yay! :D
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17:08 < riclas> yo boyz gz
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18:36 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell pushed 14 new commits to master: https://git.io/vbCVh
18:36 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master 560ae85 Landon Mutch: BOLT 4: add ToC, format headers
18:36 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master 07f44a4 Landon Mutch: BOLT 4: copy-edit, reword Overview
18:36 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master 4cc95f8 Landon Mutch: BOLT 2: apply updated stylesheet guidelines for data measurements;
18:36 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell closed pull request #303: Pr 299 rebased (master...pr-299-rebased) https://git.io/vbsx5
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