--- Day changed Wed Dec 13 2017 00:13 < lndbot1> Lightning requires stable transaction ids. Bitcoin did not have stable ids until transaction malleability was fixed in segwit. 00:13 -!- skyde [47c5c39c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.197.195.156] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 00:13 -!- go1111111 [~go1111111@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/go1111111] has joined #lightning-dev 00:15 < lndbot1> https://bitcointechtalk.com/transaction-malleability-explained-b7e240236fc7 00:17 -!- dom_eclair_ [~dom_eclai@80.12.27.188] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:25 -!- dan_jen1 [~dan_jen1@63-234-34-226.dia.static.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:32 -!- dan_jen1 [~dan_jen1@63.234.34.226] has joined #lightning-dev 00:43 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has joined #lightning-dev 00:50 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 01:12 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-asuukgnoghxecexx] has joined #lightning-dev 01:24 -!- alreadylate [~textual@37-247-1-221.customers.ownit.se] has joined #lightning-dev 01:39 -!- 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added to my list 14:06 -!- JackH [~laptop@cbg156.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #lightning-dev 14:06 -!- alreadylate [~textual@customer-46-39-118-13.stosn.net] has quit [] 14:06 < jb55> cdecker: I've been playing around with the idea of combining your integration test suite with some kind of property based tests. It seems well abstracted that you could randomly generate API calls, and then compare that to a model of what you expect the state to be after those calls. Going to explore this more over the break. 14:07 < jb55> The video goes into more how to do this and get useful results 14:10 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 14:11 < jb55> it works well for testing data structures, databases, etc. It remains to be seen if it would be useful for testing distributed systems. My guess is yes but I'm not sure of any prior work here... 14:11 < cdecker> That'd be so cool :-) 14:13 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:15 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 14:16 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 14:20 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Excess Flood] 14:20 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 14:33 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:33 -!- eck [~eck@fsf/member/eck] has joined #lightning-dev 14:33 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lightning-dev 14:42 -!- eck [~eck@fsf/member/eck] has quit [Quit: we out here] 14:44 -!- eck [~eck@fsf/member/eck] has joined #lightning-dev 14:47 -!- alreadylate [~textual@customer-46-39-118-13.stosn.net] has joined #lightning-dev 14:48 -!- rusty 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(master...mention-hidden-service) https://git.io/vbRPk 18:07 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell closed pull request #315: Bolt4 copy edit (master...bolt4-copy-edit) https://git.io/vb4MA 18:07 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell pushed 4 new commits to master: https://git.io/vba4k 18:07 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master 08f23a7 Landon Mutch: BOLT 4: add packet forwarding requirements section 18:07 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master 91fbda6 Landon Mutch: BOLT 4: seperate error messages from requirements 18:07 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master c4c7723 Landon Mutch: BOLT 4: seperate out returning errors requirements, copy edit changes 18:09 -17WAAAY5D:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vba4t 18:09 -17WAAAY5D:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master c7c8691 Shannon Appelcline: BOLT-09 Edits (#321)... 18:09 -17SAAA01J:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell closed pull request #321: BOLT-09 Edits (master...bolt9) https://git.io/vbzzL 18:14 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vba4Z 18:14 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master d622832 Pierre-Marie Padiou: use remote's `htlc_minimum_msat` in `channel_update`... 18:18 -!- Dummbatz [~dummy@121.90.196.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has quit [] 18:18 < jb55> I must be really unlucky because now I'm stuck on CHANNELD_AWAITING_LOCKIN ... is there any way to see a more detailed state instead of what I see in getpeers? like the funding tx? 18:29 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Quit: .] 18:34 -!- betawaffle [~betawaffl@h1.kdf.io] has joined #lightning-dev 18:36 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has joined #lightning-dev 18:36 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 18:36 -!- jtimon [~quassel@164.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 18:36 -!- [b__b] [~b__b]@ec2-54-85-45-223.compute-1.amazonaws.com] has joined #lightning-dev 18:36 -!- dom_eclair [~dom_eclai@80.12.27.188] has joined #lightning-dev 18:36 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 18:37 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 18:37 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 18:37 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 19:04 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:08 < rusty> jb55: how long have you been waiting? Agreed, it should show txid, though it did return that when you did connect... 19:09 < jb55> rusty: it's at 14 confs now 19:09 < jb55> was waiting all day 19:11 < rusty> jb55: OK, that's bad. Was about to suggest you file a bug report, but I see you're already all over it. 19:11 < jb55> rusty: that was a different scenario. I deleted my sqlite db on both computers and tried again 19:11 < jb55> now it got stuck this time :[ 19:11 < jb55> I'll delete and try again 19:14 < jb55> In the meantime I'll try to learn more of the codebase so I can figure out how to debug this stuff... 19:16 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 19:19 < rusty> OK, so this is an error because fee negotiation failed: 0011b779498925872861a0f91a390acbd1dcf294b2353f5aeb29b2e002e7c8282c57002746696e616c206665652033363220767320333239206174206c696d697473203336332d35333500 19:20 < rusty> aka "Final fee 362 vs 329 at limits 363-535" 19:21 < jb55> I vaguely remember reading about that when I went through the bolts, I didn't know it could fail. 19:22 < jb55> <- still ubernoob, will read through them again 19:24 < rusty> jb55: So, it means we'll accept fees in range 363-535; they sent 329, but we're already at our lower limit, so we bailed. 19:24 < rusty> Which feels very much like the negotiation bug roasbeef was complaining about... it's on my TODO list, so please keep PR open! 19:25 < rusty> If you have logs, they'd be great ... 19:27 < jb55> rusty: one thing I thought was odd, that I mentioned in the PR is that I was getting WIRE_ERROR back when restablishing connection after us both in the CLOSINGD_SIGEXCHANGE state. It looked like it was erroring because it was checking peer->error != NULL, but when I printed peer->error it was an empty string. 19:27 < rusty> Hmm... maybe our db load here is screwed. CHecking... 19:28 < jb55> rusty: then I tried to change the check so that peer->error is only an error if it was not NULL and not an empty string, but that broke all the tests, that's where I stopped because I couldn't figure out the real issue ... 19:29 < rusty> Oh! peer->error is a packet, not a string. It'll look like an empty string, since first byte is 0. 19:29 < jb55> oh derp 19:30 < rusty> try sanitize_error(peer, peer->error, NULL) which should return something human readable. 19:30 < jb55> awesome will do. thanks! 19:31 < jb55> might need to switch to regtest + multiple nodes but I haven't figured out how to set that up yet 19:32 < rusty> jb55: I'm going to reinspect our closing negotiation code, seems like it gets pretty upset easily. 19:33 < jb55> rusty: indeed, I don't think it likes me 19:34 < rusty> jb55: testers like you are the most valuable though! 19:39 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has joined #lightning-dev 19:46 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-fvmxnsrfoelqekle] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 19:54 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:56 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has joined #lightning-dev 19:59 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:15 -!- jtimon [~quassel@164.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:21 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ejacnovcrxycfqcz] has joined #lightning-dev 20:25 -!- Dummbatz [~dummy@121.90.196.178.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch] has joined #lightning-dev 20:26 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ejacnovcrxycfqcz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:43 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oodyvsjjqfchmyec] has joined #lightning-dev 20:50 < jb55> I'm guessing a lot of the variance I'm seeing is due to fluctuating fee estimates. Seems to be a common theme in a lot of the error messages. 21:08 -!- mdrollette [~mdrollett@feynman.drollette.com] has joined #lightning-dev 21:43 < dcousens> cdecker: ok, but what about making the demonimations less visually similar ? rather than mnu (which, imho, are very similar) 21:49 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] jb55 opened pull request #326: make: add document generation with pandoc (master...docgen) https://git.io/vbaa3 22:03 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:04 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:05 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has joined #lightning-dev 22:06 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:10 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 22:21 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70-36-49-138.dyn.novuscom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 22:29 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has joined #lightning-dev 22:40 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oodyvsjjqfchmyec] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 22:44 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrygtttfzqivkntj] has joined #lightning-dev 22:51 -!- Ylbam [uid99779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrygtttfzqivkntj] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:22 -!- go1111111 [~go1111111@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/go1111111] has joined #lightning-dev 23:31 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:32 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@80.107.151.135] has joined #lightning-dev 23:32 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@80.107.151.135] has quit [Changing host] 23:32 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@unaffiliated/cogito-ergo-sum/x-7399460] has joined #lightning-dev 23:42 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has joined #lightning-dev 23:54 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-169-194-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lightning-dev 23:56 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-hepmstwikhajqboh] has joined #lightning-dev