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CubicEarths> :D 09:00 < contrapumpkin> oh I can now lose my mainnet coins with a GUI?? 09:00 < CubicEarths> luv that guy 09:02 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 09:02 < molz> CubicEarths, https://github.com/lightninglabs/lightning-app/releases 09:03 < CubicEarths> Do you know if will work with bitcoind? I was going to give lightning-c a try today. I realized I was having trouble because I was playing with too many new variables yesterday 09:03 < CubicEarths> I had never used btcd before... 09:14 -!- Anteros [uid228384@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xcmhdqwexrnpxpov] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 09:14 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@92.154.68.134] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 09:19 < molz> CubicEarths, i'm running two lnd nodes that work with bitcoind, it only works on linux right now though 09:20 < molz> CubicEarths, if you want lnd to run with bitcoind, here's the patch: https://gist.github.com/aakselrod/5644b9319041a796ba6ffca28062376e 09:21 < molz> make sure your bitcoind has ZMQ 09:34 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70-36-49-138.dyn.novuscom.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:47 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 09:47 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #lightning-dev 09:50 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:51 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #lightning-dev 10:14 -!- m8tion [~m8tion@81-65-53-254.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:34 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 10:37 -!- blyat_ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 10:41 -!- blyat__ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:08 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70-36-49-138.dyn.novuscom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 11:11 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@c-73-119-55-73.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 11:17 -!- instagibbs [~instagibb@pool-100-15-116-35.washdc.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lightning-dev 11:36 -!- C7573 [4d14fc6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.20.252.111] has joined #lightning-dev 11:36 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lightning-dev 11:37 -!- C7573 [4d14fc6f@gateway/web/freenode/ip.77.20.252.111] has quit [Client Quit] 11:43 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqzrakkxotoflxdv] has joined #lightning-dev 11:43 -!- lio17 [~bumi@ns350827.ip-37-187-174.eu] has joined #lightning-dev 11:48 < lio17> heja, is anybody using c-lightning? and ran into this issue? https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/issues/476 11:49 < lio17> we're currently at 34c3 and trying to setup a network, but stuck with that error while connecting. sadly not sure how to debug it. 12:00 < molz> lio17, i heard Jonas Nick is there, ask him how he could run c-lightning here: https://twitter.com/skddc/status/946008107800584192 12:05 < lio17> molz: yeah, chatted with him, but we got stuck. will catch him again. thanks. 12:14 < spudowiar> Let me try and fire it up 12:17 < spudowiar> Just warming up my bitcoind :) 12:20 < spudowiar> Can I try sending a payment to someone on testnet? 12:20 < spudowiar> (No direct channel) 12:20 < spudowiar> Wait, let me quickly try Bitrefil 12:20 < spudowiar> *refill 12:23 < spudowiar> oi @justin Did Bitrefill change their node public key? 12:24 < lndbot1> a while back: 03459c42e997536a3347cb31c19c50df2d8e0d22e4b064de4c435a75bb275b9d47 12:24 < lndbot1> 03459c42e997536a3347cb31c19c50df2d8e0d22e4b064de4c435a75bb275b9d47@lnd.bitrefill.com 12:24 < spudowiar> Ah, ok, I had the 029bc664f7a44356b0add76acf585c1e7e8185fbe23971e7d51ab43f149ae7899a 12:24 < spudowiar> And it wasn't matching the one in the BOLT11 12:25 < spudowiar> But, I still can't seem to get a route to Bitrefill 12:25 < lndbot1> who are you connected to? 12:25 < lndbot1> gimme your node info again, I'll open a chan :slightly_smiling_face: 12:25 < spudowiar> I am 037288debcf66868d8d37f3a86d7c8ba47dcb94ef921a1228f4b7e329656677cc6 12:25 < spudowiar> I'm connected to the faucet and Bitrefill's node 12:27 < spudowiar> ok, I have a channel with Bitrefill, it seems :) 12:28 < spudowiar> It won't use that for routing until it's confirmed though 12:29 < lndbot1> yeah, I opened and pushed money your way 12:30 < spudowiar> eurgh, waiting for testnet blocks 12:30 < spudowiar> I'll just ask Slush to redirect Slush Pool :P 12:35 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:36 < spudowiar> Between waiting for this testnet block and trying to unbrick this Ledger Nano S, I'm feeling mildly infuriated :P 12:42 -!- jb55 [~jb55@2605:8d80:4e4:2523:a2af:bdff:fef0:c102] has joined #lightning-dev 12:42 -!- blyat__ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 12:45 -!- blyat_ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:46 < spudowiar> Need to check my Bitcoin node. Had 1 confirmation so it should be usable (I believe the PR for that was merged after the flaky test was fixed) /cc cdecker 12:47 < spudowiar> Node has the latest block, c-lightning should be in CHANNELD_NORMAL 12:47 < spudowiar> But it's still awaiting lockin 12:47 < lndbot1> takes 3 blocks for lnd 12:47 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 12:47 < spudowiar> Oh, wait, it segfaulted! 12:47 < lndbot1> lul 12:48 < spudowiar> The faucet killed it! 12:48 < spudowiar> lightningd(30438): peer 02f1da524a70afd8de6019e2367b47d8d41a623aa3594f55d0785fe1b047c853bc: Peer transient failure in CHANNELD_NORMAL: 12:48 < spudowiar> lightningd(30438): peer 02f1da524a70afd8de6019e2367b47d8d41a623aa3594f55d0785fe1b047c853bc: ... Owning subdaemon lightning_channeld died (33792) 12:48 < spudowiar> Now to tango with systemd to see if I can get a coredump or if it's just not my day 12:49 -!- jb55 [~jb55@2605:8d80:4e4:2523:a2af:bdff:fef0:c102] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 12:51 < spudowiar> Nice, so apparently it wasn't built with debug symbols :( 12:51 < spudowiar> Wait, it definitely should be. I think systemd is trying to screw me over. 12:51 -!- jb55 [~jb55@2605:8d80:4e4:2523:a2af:bdff:fef0:c102] has joined #lightning-dev 12:52 < spudowiar> Right, I'll file an issue later 12:52 < jb55> spudowiar: I run into that a lot, haven't figured it out yet 12:53 < spudowiar> c-lightning has some "interesting" failures 12:53 < spudowiar> We need rust-lightning :P 12:55 < jb55> spudowiar: I'm thinking haskell-lightning :] 12:56 < spudowiar> no. 12:56 < jb55> yes 12:56 < spudowiar> We need implementations in useful languages :P 12:57 < jb55> not sure what a useful programming language means 12:57 < spudowiar> Just kidding :) Useful = !PHP 12:58 < spudowiar> Anyway, we can get lightning.js using WebAssembly :P 12:59 < spudowiar> Gtg 12:59 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 14:23 -!- Anteros [uid228384@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ijveurbzdayygndq] has joined #lightning-dev 14:31 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lightning-dev 14:42 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:43 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 14:47 -!- blyat_ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 14:48 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:357e:59:86bc:c595] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:50 -!- blyat__ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:51 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-68-232-79.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:58 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 14:58 -!- jb55 [~jb55@2605:8d80:4e4:2523:a2af:bdff:fef0:c102] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 15:01 -!- blyat_ [~blyat@cpe-71-71-200-3.carolina.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:12 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-68-232-79.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 15:32 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 15:48 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 16:03 -!- dviola [~diego@unaffiliated/dviola] has joined #lightning-dev 16:06 -!- iwkse [~iwkse@unaffiliated/iwkse] has joined #lightning-dev 16:06 < iwkse> hi, I'm trying eclair on testnet, I successfully opened a channel, the status says normal, how to spend coins after that? 16:08 < usr> iwkse make a commitment transaction to your channel partner 16:09 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has joined #lightning-dev 16:12 < molz> iwkse, buy some coffee: https://starblocks.acinq.co/#/ 16:13 < iwkse> molz: oh cool 16:13 < molz> iwkse, here, try and see if you can pay this invoice: lntb15u1pdydk0mpp5hqlfqn8ln7heu3tj4faans8m2ru6p9cvmff69443yulq0j3d90pqdq4xysyymr0vd4kzcmrd9hx7e0xgpcfed6vd6x3lxfp54kcjtzl255j9uqpv8ncxexd36uufdv4ya8qky03ame3qp8365hkv4zhgktshea7qsrchvyh2s4slx26gqrcpf0ths7 16:13 < iwkse> right now the channel says offline 16:16 < iwkse> I got how it works though, thanks molz 16:16 < molz> oh cool, np 16:17 -!- jb55 [~jb55@2605:8d80:4e0:9c03:a2af:bdff:fef0:c102] has joined #lightning-dev 16:24 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:27 -!- jb55 [~jb55@2605:8d80:4e0:9c03:a2af:bdff:fef0:c102] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:27 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@68.100.207.91] has joined #lightning-dev 16:29 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@68.100.207.91] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 16:31 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 16:44 -!- jb55 [~jb55@2605:8d80:4c0:4df7:a2af:bdff:fef0:c102] has joined #lightning-dev 16:54 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 16:59 < dviola> I just tried buying coffee, wow 16:59 < dviola> so fast 16:59 < dviola> can't wait until this goes live on main net 16:59 < dviola> it will change everything 17:01 < SuperSeriousCat> What was the fee? 17:02 < dviola> routing fees? 17:02 < dviola> 0.0001 mBTC 17:02 < molz> haha dviola i'm surprised to see you here :D 17:03 < jb55> bcalc 0.0001 mBTC in sats 17:03 < jb55> 10 sats 17:03 < dviola> :) 17:03 < jb55> nice 17:03 < dviola> hey molz 17:11 < usr> Why isn't it live yet? what's left? 17:11 < usr> Why can't I just run a lightning node and get people buying 17:17 < molz> yea why can't you? 17:22 < mryandao> you can run on mainnet already 17:22 < mryandao> just change the code yourself. 17:22 < mryandao> if funds are lost, its on you. 17:25 < usr> mryandao: what are the issues? 17:25 -!- jb55 [~jb55@2605:8d80:4c0:4df7:a2af:bdff:fef0:c102] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 17:29 < dviola> after closing the channel everything is stored in the blockchain? 17:36 < mryandao> dviola: no, just the settlement transaction 17:38 < dviola> not sure I understand 17:39 < dviola> what if I receive a LN payment, for 1 BTC and I want to store that BTC long term, do I just close the channel and I'm done? 17:39 < dviola> or I have to transfer it to another address I control (on chain tx)? 17:40 < mryandao> sure, you close with a settlement transaction 17:40 < dviola> or if I accumulate lots of small payments in LN 17:40 < dviola> oh 17:40 < dviola> makes sense, thanks :) 18:02 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:21 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #lightning-dev 18:30 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:31 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@2601:182:cd00:2dd1:7c31:3a09:7179:e968] has joined #lightning-dev 18:34 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:35 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #lightning-dev 18:45 -!- polimata [~polimata@2804:7f1:1280:56a0:293a:b260:879e:b082] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:50 < dviola> I'm curious if Core will implement LN features in the future 18:51 < lndbot1> unlikely 18:51 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70-36-49-138.dyn.novuscom.net] has joined #lightning-dev 18:51 < dviola> LN will always exist in separate wallets? 18:51 < usr> yes 18:51 < dviola> I see 18:51 < usr> LN is a seperate network 18:52 < usr> that just leverages Bitcoin 18:52 < dviola> I see 18:52 < jb55> no 18:52 < jb55> the goal is to have wallets that are BTC wallets and LN wallets 18:53 < jb55> there are just no plans to make core an LN wallet 18:54 < jb55> at least at this time or in the near future 18:54 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@2601:182:cd00:2dd1:7c31:3a09:7179:e968] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 18:54 < dviola> so LN will be more like for shopping 18:54 < dviola> making small payments quick 18:54 < dviola> something that I'd probably want to use on my phone 18:55 < dviola> on my desktop I already use Core as a wallet 18:55 < dviola> but I never really spend my BTC 18:57 < dviola> I suppose merchant adoption is going to increase with LN, so we'll see, I might spend then 19:00 -!- polimata [~polimata@177.41.222.95] has joined #lightning-dev 19:04 < usr> dviola: Most users of BTC will rarely use the blockchain but will instead stay on the LN 19:04 < usr> It's too costly to be moving Bitcoin back and forth from BTC to LN for the average individual 19:06 < jb55> yeah once lightning implementations are robust enough, there's no reason not to open up a channel for months or years and just use that 19:07 -!- polimata_ [~polimata@2804:7f1:1280:973b:293a:b260:879e:b082] has joined #lightning-dev 19:08 -!- polimata [~polimata@177.41.222.95] has quit [Ping timeout: 263 seconds] 19:08 < jb55> the payment protocol has a BTC fallback if there's no route to the merchant, but hopefully connectivity will be good enough so you don't need to fall back to chain for merchant payments 19:09 < usr> jb55: the incentive for connectivity is so huge, that it shouldn't be a problem 19:09 < dviola> I see, thanks 19:14 -!- polimata_ [~polimata@2804:7f1:1280:973b:293a:b260:879e:b082] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 19:41 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 19:45 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:03 -!- dviola [~diego@unaffiliated/dviola] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 20:07 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:33 -!- Kozuch [~Kozuch@81.0.198.168] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:36 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@c-73-119-55-73.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 21:13 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-68-232-79.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-68-232-79.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 21:18 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-68-232-79.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:22 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@73.61.11.190] has joined #lightning-dev 21:42 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@c-73-119-55-73.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:00 -!- sandeep [~d1g1t@pdpc/supporter/active/d1g1t] has joined #lightning-dev 22:08 -!- go1111111 [~go1111111@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/go1111111] has joined #lightning-dev 22:32 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-pqzrakkxotoflxdv] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 23:05 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70-36-49-138.dyn.novuscom.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 23:09 < lndbot1> How do I open two channels to same node from lightning-c? 23:10 < lndbot1> Trying find channel says peer already CHANNELD_NORMAL 23:10 < lndbot1> *fund channel 23:11 < lndbot1> Trying a second channel from éclair to lightning-c closes even the existing channel 23:13 < lndbot1> Logs here : https://github.com/ACINQ/eclair/issues/351 23:23 -!- sgt-miller [9d30f4e7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.157.48.244.231] has joined #lightning-dev 23:24 -!- Anteros [uid228384@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ijveurbzdayygndq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 23:28 -!- sgt-miller [9d30f4e7@gateway/web/freenode/ip.157.48.244.231] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 23:49 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@73.61.11.190] has quit [Remote host closed the connection]