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[Max SendQ exceeded] 03:43 -!- kiltzman [~k1ltzman@95.215.47.208] has joined #lightning-dev 03:43 -!- kiltzman [~k1ltzman@95.215.47.208] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 03:44 < melik> anyone around? how many confirmations do i need for my channel to become open 03:44 < melik> i believe im at 2 confirmations right now, and its still pending-open 03:46 < lndbot1> I believe it is 6 03:46 < lndbot1> but I dont know 03:48 < melik> thanks alek 03:48 < melik> i'll go to sleep then and check on it in the morning :) 03:53 < molz> 3 confirmations 04:01 -!- Naknut [~Naknut@194.246.15.245] has joined #lightning-dev 04:06 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 04:08 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lightning-dev 04:10 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:10 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Client Quit] 04:15 -!- JackH [~laptop@91.189.61.70] has joined #lightning-dev 04:16 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lightning-dev 04:18 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Client Quit] 04:21 -!- _flow_ [flow@star.geekplace.eu] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:23 < cdecker> Depends on implementation 04:25 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lightning-dev 04:27 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Client Quit] 04:32 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:33 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lightning-dev 04:33 -!- DrFeelGood [~DrFeelGoo@unaffiliated/olufunmilayo] has joined #lightning-dev 04:34 -!- Naknut [~Naknut@194.246.15.245] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:35 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [Client Quit] 04:35 < molz> cdecker, does c-lightning need 6 confirmations? 04:37 < cdecker> 1 on testnet to become NORMAL 04:37 < cdecker> All implementations require at least 6 confirmations to become announceable, i.e., usable for multi-hop payments 04:38 < cdecker> See https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/07-routing-gossip.md#requirements for the rationale 04:39 < cdecker> That's a stumbling stone many people find (their channel looks normal, but can't be used for multi-hop yet) 04:39 -!- Naknut [~Naknut@194.246.15.245] has joined #lightning-dev 04:40 < cdecker> ElementsProject/lightning#514 will add a public flag to the JSON-RPC output that says whether the channel has been published for forwardin 04:42 < molz> well after 3 confirmations on lnd i can start sending payments 04:43 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lightning-dev 04:46 < cdecker> Right, but that new channel is only usable to you 04:46 < cdecker> Others will only be able to forward over it after 6 04:50 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 05:01 < molz> oh i see, thanks, cdecker 05:03 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined 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I'm just going into LN details and I'm wondering how a lightning mobile wallet is supposed to be implemented. Right now it seems like the only option is to connect to lnd via gRPC or REST. Are mobile wallets supposed to use a wallet service (using lnd or other) ran by a third party, like bitcore ? The only mobile wallet right now seems to be eclair-android, but this is not open source 08:50 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 08:51 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 08:52 < pm__> eclair-android *is* a lightning node, it doesn't connect to an external wallet service. It is not yet open source, but is just a thin wrapper around eclair-core (branch wip-android), which is open source. 09:05 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 09:06 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 09:07 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Client Quit] 09:07 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lightning-dev 09:10 < lndbot1> Ah ok. thanks That may explain why there is not any iOS wallet yet. What would be the approach for an iOS wallet? Also, is a lightening strictly required for a mobile wallet? 09:19 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:22 -!- jtimon [~quassel@41.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 09:24 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 09:24 -!- PaulCapestany [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:26 -!- PaulCape_ [~PaulCapes@ip68-100-207-91.dc.dc.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:50 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:54 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 10:18 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 10:20 -!- m8tion [~m8tion@81-65-53-254.rev.numericable.fr] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:25 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 10:30 < pm__> botrunner: I guess someone needs to implement lightning in objective c. Good news is, we have a spec :-) 10:30 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:30 -!- pm__ [~pm@11.46-14-84.ripe.coltfrance.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:32 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@173.209.63.133] has joined #lightning-dev 10:50 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 10:57 -!- SevenTimes [~SevenTime@c-73-162-115-183.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:04 -!- jb55 [~jb55@209.52.229.194] has joined #lightning-dev 11:11 < Sentineo> hm htlc.me, yalls.org all failing to send/receive. Just curious ... anybody knows what is happening to them? Is this normal on testnet? It did work yesterday nicely ... Trying it out with some friends ... 11:12 < lndbot1> yalls reset when I updated it 11:13 < lndbot1> looks like it is unhappy atm though 11:13 < lndbot1> guessing that btcd died 11:13 < Sentineo> yeah requests time out 11:13 < lndbot1> one sec 11:14 < Sentineo> on htlc.me I can not pay an invoice, but can receive funds 11:14 < lndbot1> super crazy load on htlc.me lnd 11:20 < lndbot1> send should be working on htlc.me now 11:20 -!- jb55 [~jb55@209.52.229.194] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:36 < Sentineo> ok ty 11:38 -!- nkuttler [~nkuttler@unaffiliated/nkuttler] has joined #lightning-dev 11:38 < Sentineo> well not working, but have to go anyways :) 11:40 < lndbot1> fixed yalls, I forgot to change the lnd.conf 11:40 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lightning-dev 11:40 < dionysus69> hey all 11:41 < lndbot1> It’s still on a super cheapo VPS, need to finesse it a bit to keep it running 11:41 < dionysus69> I am trying out a lightning-c client 11:41 < dionysus69> how do I pass in user pass for rpc 11:49 -!- kiltzman [~k1ltzman@95.215.47.208] has joined #lightning-dev 11:49 -!- kiltzman [~k1ltzman@95.215.47.208] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:49 -!- kiltzman [~k1ltzman@95.215.47.208] has joined #lightning-dev 11:49 -!- kiltzman [~k1ltzman@95.215.47.208] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:50 -!- kiltzman [~k1ltzman@95.215.47.208] has joined #lightning-dev 11:50 -!- kiltzman [~k1ltzman@95.215.47.208] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:50 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has joined #lightning-dev 11:51 -!- dlb76 [~dlb76@unaffiliated/dlb76] has joined #lightning-dev 11:51 -!- kiltzman [~k1ltzman@95.215.47.208] has joined #lightning-dev 11:51 -!- kiltzman [~k1ltzman@95.215.47.208] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:52 -!- IniGit [~Gernot@62-178-56-62.cable.dynamic.surfer.at] has joined #lightning-dev 11:53 -!- kiltzman [~k1ltzman@95.215.47.208] has joined #lightning-dev 11:53 -!- kiltzman [~k1ltzman@95.215.47.208] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:53 -!- kiltzman [~k1ltzman@95.215.47.208] has joined #lightning-dev 11:53 -!- kiltzman [~k1ltzman@95.215.47.208] has quit [Max SendQ exceeded] 11:57 -!- anome [~anome@unaffiliated/anome] has quit [] 11:58 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 12:02 -!- BladeMcCool [~BladeMcCo@node-1w7jr9ss1inb968eucy9yen8e.ipv6.telus.net] has joined #lightning-dev 12:03 < BladeMcCool> is there a way with lncli to list the addresses that have been created with newaddress ? 12:05 < molz> BladeMcCool, lncli -h 12:05 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 12:06 < BladeMcCool> molz: i cant find an option under -h that mentions listing addresses. am i blind? is there one i can't see? 12:07 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 12:07 < BladeMcCool> walletbalance doesnt show the addresses 12:09 < melik> lnd is blowing my mind :) 12:11 < BladeMcCool> restarting the lnd instance and unlocking the wallet also does not display the existing addresses in the wallet. can someone help me figure out the details of a way to list the addresses that an lnd instance has created already? I cannot find an apropriate option under -h . if it is just not possible please tell me and i will just make more addresses. 12:11 < molz> BladeMcCool, do you see listchaintxns in help? 12:12 -!- Tennis [~Tennis@unaffiliated/tennis] has joined #lightning-dev 12:12 < BladeMcCool> molz: i do, but the output is just an empty json array under "transactions" 12:13 < molz> what do you mean? 12:13 < molz> did you create any txs from the lnd wallet? 12:14 < BladeMcCool> i am in the tutorial after creating the wallet addresses of the 3 nodes, and the part where you mine blocks to each address. so i created the addresses with newaddress for each one. next step was to mine 400 blocks for alice, which i did fine because alices wallet address was still on the screen. 12:15 < BladeMcCool> the bob and charlie instances which i told to create wallet address for did their thing too and reported new wallet addresses. but i closed the windows and now restarted them and unlocked their wallets but i lost the addresses. 12:16 < molz> i have no clue, don't know much about simnet 12:16 < molz> but anyways, this is about LND, you can ask in #lnd channel 12:17 < BladeMcCool> ok, ty for suggestions. 12:24 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell opened pull request #351: BOLT 2: clarify that feerate is in *satoshi* per ksipa. (master...clarify-feerate) https://git.io/vNLQr 12:26 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 12:30 -!- eck [~eck@fsf/member/eck] has joined #lightning-dev 12:30 -!- jb55 [~jb55@209.52.229.194] has joined #lightning-dev 12:31 -!- stiell [~stian@fsf/member/stiell] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 12:44 -!- a_meteor_ [~a_meteori@unaffiliated/ameteorite/x-000000001] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Vulnerabilities and Prevention Techniques (master...injection-vulnerabilities) https://git.io/vNtOd 16:26 -!- eck [~eck@fsf/member/eck] has quit [Quit: we out here] 16:30 < molz> melik, no, only if you want other nodes to be able to open channels with your nodes then you should open the port, otherwise you still can open channels with other nodes and transact 16:31 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:59 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@173.209.63.133] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:59 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@173.209.63.133] has joined #lightning-dev 17:00 -!- lstern [3a0b9f1d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.11.159.29] has joined #lightning-dev 17:01 -!- lstern [3a0b9f1d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.58.11.159.29] has quit [Client Quit] 17:06 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@153.142.228.110] has joined #lightning-dev 17:19 -!- Tennis [~Tennis@unaffiliated/tennis] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:44 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] junderw closed pull request #319: BOLT#11 Add breaking changes as per mailing list (master...bolt11-proposed-changes) https://git.io/vb0qJ 17:44 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 17:45 -!- a_meteorite [~a_meteori@unaffiliated/ameteorite/x-000000001] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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(master...clarify-feerate) https://git.io/vNLQr 19:07 < mryandao> ksipa @.@ 19:10 < lndbot1> How do I set ip to be public on lightning-c? 19:21 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:21 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:21 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #lightning-dev 19:21 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 19:30 -!- contrapumpkin [~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin] has joined #lightning-dev 19:34 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:46 -!- riclas [riclas@72.210.189.46.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 19:55 -!- contrapumpkin [~copumpkin@haskell/developer/copumpkin] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Pro has gone to sleep. 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Depending on your connection and you computer this may take several hours." 20:30 <+roasbeef> testnet chain is about 14GB or so 20:33 < melvster> thanks 20:33 < melvster> 6gb on this machine, ill look for something bigger 20:34 < melvster> is there any way to run LN as a 'thin' client, right now? 20:34 < melvster> e.g. spv like system 20:35 <+roasbeef> melvster: lnd has a light client mode (see neutrino in the installation docs), and the eclair mobile app uses electrumx as a backend 20:36 < melvster> roasbeef, thank you! 20:36 -!- a_meteorite [~a_meteori@unaffiliated/ameteorite/x-000000001] has joined #lightning-dev 20:36 < melvster> will send you some testnet coins when im up and running! :D 20:37 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 20:52 < melvster> well that worked great, roasbeef , I have a channel already open on eclair! :D 20:53 -!- ajunas [adefe89e@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.239.232.158] has joined #lightning-dev 20:53 < melvster> FYI: I gave myself 30 minutes to try and get this up and running and it all works! :D 20:58 -!- IniGit [~Gernot@62.178.56.62] has joined #lightning-dev 21:09 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 21:10 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:11 -!- whphhg [~whphhg@unaffiliated/whphhg] has joined #lightning-dev 21:20 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@c-73-119-55-73.hsd1.ma.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 21:29 < melvster> bought stuff too ... LN is phenomenal, seeing is believing ... great work guys! :D 21:31 < coolJames> whats the most mature LN implementation ? 21:31 < mryandao> coolJames: uhh, none are mature yet. 21:31 < coolJames> most 21:31 < mryandao> I can tell you most user-friendly for a non-technical person. 21:31 < coolJames> sure 21:31 < mryandao> but really, the adjective _mature_ is not even applicabl.e 21:32 < mryandao> coolJames: lnd, most likely. 21:34 < melvster> if you just want a wallet, i just tried eclair, its great for a non techie too 21:35 < coolJames> does wallet allow you to open channels ? 21:36 < coolJames> lnd doesnt work on Windows ? 21:36 < coolJames> i may be misreading this readme 21:38 < melvster> coolJames, yes it does and send payments via qr codes 21:38 < melvster> i only tried it on android 21:53 < melvster> https://htlc.me/ also worked for me 22:41 -!- dionysus69 [~Thunderbi@unaffiliated/dionysus69] has joined #lightning-dev 22:54 < dionysus69> how do I pass in user pass for rpc with a lightning-c client 22:54 < dionysus69> ? 22:55 <+roasbeef> dionysus69: rpc to bitcoind? 22:55 < dionysus69> yep 22:56 < dionysus69> when I run lightningd/lightningd --network=testnet --log-level=debug 22:56 < dionysus69> I get incorrect user pass 22:56 < dionysus69> --help doesn't list those options so 23:02 <+roasbeef> hmm, iirc it does auto configuration 23:09 < dionysus69> hmm? 23:09 < dionysus69> don't know, so it fails to start and don't know what to do next xD 23:30 <+roasbeef> i mean when i've used it i the past, i didn't need to configure rpc settings at all dionysus69 23:31 < dionysus69> hmm dunno 23:31 < dionysus69> maybe there's a different problem :S 23:31 < dionysus69> thing is I am using rpcauth instead of rpc_user/pass params 23:31 < dionysus69> maybe it's not been worked on yet 23:33 <+roasbeef> rpcauth as in the cookie? 23:33 < dionysus69> yep 23:47 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 23:48 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 23:49 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-52-42-179-84.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 23:49 -!- jimpo [~jimpo@ec2-52-42-179-84.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com] has joined #lightning-dev 23:50 -!- surj [~surj@c-24-23-244-150.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 23:51 < surj> So I get that the concept of LN is sound 23:51 < surj> but what about the node software? 23:52 < surj> Like, say coinbase runs a node, and I find an exploit, couldn't I just robinhood them by pushing an old channel state? 23:52 < surj> I guess this would be bad for everyone though...