--- Day changed Mon Jan 29 2018 00:17 -!- AndBobsYourUncle [~AndBobsYo@cpe-23-240-21-154.socal.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com] 00:35 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 00:45 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 00:57 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd57e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #lightning-dev 01:45 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lightning-dev 01:51 -!- ravanga [492a7dac@gateway/web/freenode/ip.73.42.125.172] has joined #lightning-dev 01:52 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:ad92:eca7:97d5:1b42] has joined #lightning-dev 02:02 -!- spinza [~spin@196.212.164.26] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 02:04 -!- mn3monic [~mn3@unaffiliated/mn3monic] has joined #lightning-dev 02:18 -!- kunla [~kunla@bl13-61-148.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 02:18 < ravanga> Hi, any tips on resolving "WIRE_TEMPORARY_CHANNEL_FAILURE (reply from remote)?" 02:21 -!- meteo [~meteo@52.201.229.182] has joined #lightning-dev 02:22 < ravanga> pay.c:104 indicates that it must be a remote fail but are there ways to troubleshoot from my end? 02:34 < rusty> ravanga: it means the remote says channel unavailable for some reason. The correct answer is that it should remove that channel and re-route; for c-lightning that's a WIP. 02:41 < ravanga> Thanks rusty, additional info: getroute returns 4 hops for a payment that should be direct. What's up with that? 02:41 < rusty> ravanga: -> #c-lightning 03:26 -!- finkan [~finkan@194-103-214-178.kund.ipswe.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 03:35 -!- keymone [~keymone@ip1f13761c.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:36 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:37 -!- keymone [~keymone@ip1f13761c.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #lightning-dev 03:52 -!- Mark__ [5bd4cf04@gateway/web/freenode/ip.91.212.207.4] has joined #lightning-dev 03:54 < lxer> So I had this server (c-lightning) working yesterday, funded a channel and received payments. Now I turn the server on again this morning and I see this message in the logs: "peer 02e6...: activate_peer(OPENINGD) with no funding txid?" 03:56 < lxer> What happened? do I need to do something to make it work again? 04:04 -!- ralphthe1inja [~lms@c-6469e555.03-130-6e6b701.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se] has joined #lightning-dev 04:04 -!- ralphthe1inja is now known as ralphtheninja2 04:05 < lxer> channelslist is also empty. Perhaps the remote closed it, but that is not in the logs. Can I somehow figure that out? 04:06 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 04:08 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 04:09 -!- AmikoPay_CJP [~AmikoPay_@a83-163-77-195.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #lightning-dev 04:12 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 04:15 -!- dom_eclair_ [~dom_eclai@92.184.96.29] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:15 -!- dom_eclair [~dom_eclai@92.184.96.29] has joined #lightning-dev 04:29 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:37 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 04:37 -!- litch [~litch@cpe-72-182-55-95.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 04:38 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has joined #lightning-dev 04:38 -!- litch [~litch@cpe-72-182-55-95.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 04:42 -!- litch [~litch@cpe-72-182-55-95.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:45 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xavieucymdtpcvrr] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 05:02 -!- litch [~litch@cpe-72-182-55-95.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 05:08 -!- ebx [~ebx@12.226.6.52] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:10 -!- kbasali_ [b0e94d33@gateway/web/freenode/ip.176.233.77.51] has joined #lightning-dev 05:10 < kbasali_> Have question, What is the server requirements for LN 05:10 < kbasali_> 200 GB hdd, 16 Ram, 8 core CPU is it enough or can I go for cheaper server? 05:16 < jojeyh> kbasali_, are you running a bitcoin node? 05:17 < kbasali_> yes 05:17 < jojeyh> full node? 05:17 < kbasali_> yes, 05:17 < jojeyh> you're good 05:17 < jojeyh> LN doesn't require much storage 05:18 -!- litch [~litch@cpe-72-182-55-95.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:18 < jojeyh> the memory requirements might be high, but 16GB ram should be plenty 05:18 -!- litch [~litch@cpe-72-182-55-95.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 05:19 < kbasali_> thank you so much, so I can start with 8 gb RAM right? 05:19 < jojeyh> it really depends on what else you're running on the computer 05:20 < jojeyh> there's only one way to find out :) 05:21 -!- DrOlmer [~DrOlmer@unaffiliated/drolmer] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 05:21 < kbasali_> I need to monitor server right :) 05:21 < kbasali_> There is nothing else working on server ATM 05:22 < kbasali_> Just do not wanna spend too much money for server thats why I'm asking 05:22 -!- litch [~litch@cpe-72-182-55-95.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:24 < kbasali_> https://lnmainnet.gaben.win/ Anatolia is my server 05:25 < kbasali_> not server node, sorry 05:26 < kbasali_> 4 core will be enough? Cannot the server requirements. 05:26 -!- litch [~litch@cpe-72-182-55-95.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 05:26 < jojeyh> you're good dude 05:26 < jojeyh> just run the software 05:27 < kbasali_> thank you. 05:27 < kbasali_> its running already 05:28 < jojeyh> lulz 05:28 < jojeyh> yeah you'll be fine 05:28 < jojeyh> are you on mainnet? 05:28 < kbasali_> yes, 05:28 < jojeyh> oh dear lol 05:28 < kbasali_> I figure out how to change node names, and others 05:28 < kbasali_> so far everything goes well, 05:29 < jojeyh> its your bitcoin 05:31 < kbasali_> I'll try with other server, couse this one is cost me 80$ 05:31 -!- litch [~litch@cpe-72-182-55-95.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:40 -!- jtimon [~quassel@41.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 05:44 -!- litch [~litch@cpe-72-182-55-95.austin.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 05:49 -!- litch [~litch@cpe-72-182-55-95.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:52 -!- 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ZZZzzz…] 15:51 -!- harding [~harding@mail.dtrt.org] has joined #lightning-dev 15:51 -!- postno [postno@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-vzkkmqrvoakgelcb] has joined #lightning-dev 15:51 -!- fronti [~fronti@irc.fh-biergarten.de] has joined #lightning-dev 15:54 -!- jb55 [~jb55@70-36-49-138.dyn.novuscom.net] has joined #lightning-dev 15:57 -!- grafcaps [6889c2ff@gateway/web/freenode/ip.104.137.194.255] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:03 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:12 -!- capa66 [capa66@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/capa66] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:17 -!- kunla [~kunla@bl13-153-142.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:35 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:ad92:eca7:97d5:1b42] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 16:37 < grubles> what would be a good way to convey lightning's ability to send micropayments without sounding like you can only do micropayments 16:38 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 16:41 -!- Emcy_ [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:51 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has quit [] 16:53 -!- plankers [~plank@c-98-238-141-78.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:57 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd57e.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:05 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has joined #lightning-dev 17:07 < jb55> it can zap like static or thunder 17:07 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:08 < rusty> jb55: lol 17:18 < grubles> hehe 17:21 -!- tryphe_ [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has joined #lightning-dev 17:24 -!- mn3monic [~xxwa@unaffiliated/mn3monic] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:24 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:27 -!- tryphe_ is now known as tryphe 17:30 -!- mn3monic [~xxwa@unaffiliated/mn3monic] has joined #lightning-dev 17:58 < harding> grubles: "any-sized payments" 17:59 < meteo> using c-lighting. trying to fund a channel, its stuck at ONCHAIND_OUR_UNILATERAL after 100 confirmations. the doc says it should have changed to CHANNELD_NORMAL. Any ideas? 18:00 < grubles> harding, that works 18:01 < grubles> i went with something along the lines of "lightning enables payments smaller than a single satoshi" 18:04 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:5a69:d114:68b8:dae2] has joined #lightning-dev 18:19 < rusty> meteo: 100 after all outputs resolved. logs will show details, but if it's a unilateral close default is 144 block delay before it can reclaim own funds. 18:37 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 18:41 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has joined #lightning-dev 18:50 -!- RubenSomsen [~RubenSoms@1.217.138.142] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 18:53 -!- Guest98163 [~tla@cpe-72-135-235-246.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 19:11 -!- dx25 [~dx25@97-121-79-242.omah.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:14 -!- beeteecee [~beeteecee@S010608bd43d0655d.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #lightning-dev 19:16 -!- dx25 [~dx25@97-121-79-242.omah.qwest.net] has joined #lightning-dev 19:16 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.3+deb1+trusty0 - http://znc.in] 19:30 < rusty> roasbeef: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/issues/365 :( 19:31 < rusty> No wonder I was having so much trouble with closing negotiation. It's not actually possible via current spec. 19:31 <+roasbeef> have been seeing some issues cross-impl 19:31 <+roasbeef> issues like "they jumped too far" or something like that 19:31 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has joined #lightning-dev 19:32 <+roasbeef> fwiw i implement it as the responder sends the first 19:34 -14WAABGIZ:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell pushed 1 new commit to master: https://git.io/vN9RL 19:34 -14WAABGIZ:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master 29ae44e Shannon Appelcline: BOLT-4 Re-Edits... 19:34 -7GHAB0ADI:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell closed pull request #339: BOLT-4 Re-Edits (master...bolt4) https://git.io/vbSjc 19:34 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell closed pull request #344: Minor proselint edits (master...style) https://git.io/vbFfE 19:36 < rusty> roasbeef: define responder? Non-funder? 19:36 < rusty> roasbeef: or whoever didn't initiate the current connection? 19:36 < rusty> Since both sides can shutdown simultaneously, that's not a helpful ordering. 19:36 * rusty finally gets back to merging RFC prs... 19:40 -!- riclas [riclas@148.63.37.111] has quit [] 19:41 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:41 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has joined #lightning-dev 19:41 <+roasbeef> hmmm, yeh idk, our impl is very liberal as far as what we accept, etc. for example we'll look back on all past sigs and see if we like any of those based on what you've sent now 19:42 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.6.3+deb1+xenial0 - http://znc.in] 19:44 < rusty> roasbeef: yeah, maybe the workaround for now is to just drop the check and be more liberal. But the code is nasty, would prefer to define "funder sends first offer". 19:44 -!- tryphe_ [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has joined #lightning-dev 19:45 < rusty> s/funder/initiator/ perhaos for more futureproofing, when we get dualfunder. 19:45 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:46 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has joined #lightning-dev 19:46 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell pushed 5 new commits to master: https://git.io/vN9Rd 19:46 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master dee9142 toadlybroodle: BOLT 7: first pass copy edit to line 120 19:46 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master 2252449 toadlybroodle: BOLT 07: first pass copy edit to line 210 19:46 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- lightning-rfc/master e3ca76a toadlybroodle: BOLT 7: first pass copy edit to line 315 19:47 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:47 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell closed pull request #345: Minor layout fixes (master...minor-layout-fixes) https://git.io/vbpeb 19:54 -!- achow101 [~achow101@unaffiliated/achow101] has joined #lightning-dev 19:57 -!- beeteecee [~beeteecee@S010608bd43d0655d.vc.shawcable.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:08 -!- tryphe_ is now known as tryphe 20:11 -!- litch [~litch@cpe-72-182-55-95.austin.res.rr.com] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:16 -lightningrfc:#lightning-dev- [lightning-rfc] rustyrussell opened pull request #366: BOLT 2: order closing-signed negotiation by making funder send first. 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