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[~zoOma-x@AMontsouris-653-1-77-227.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 10:42 -!- zxxxxxma [~zoOma-x@AMontsouris-653-1-77-227.w86-212.abo.wanadoo.fr] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 10:47 -!- sengehest [~sengehest@188.81-166-37.customer.lyse.net] has joined #lightning-dev 10:47 < lio17> does anybody know the the yalls.org payout is implemented? 10:54 -!- kunla [~kunla@2001:8a0:4113:9a01:3d27:764c:77d4:39c1] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 11:05 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 11:06 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 11:09 < lndbot> It just does a normal payinvoice with grpc lnd 11:20 -!- dom_eclair [~dom_eclai@80.12.27.240] has joined #lightning-dev 11:22 -!- whythat [~whythat@gateway/tor-sasl/whythat] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 11:23 -!- kunla [~kunla@2001:8a0:4113:9a01:3d27:764c:77d4:39c1] has joined #lightning-dev 11:25 -!- sengehest [~sengehest@188.81-166-37.customer.lyse.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 11:26 -!- whythat [~whythat@gateway/tor-sasl/whythat] has joined #lightning-dev 11:34 < lio17> so it generates a payment request, as my node would generate? 11:34 < lio17> I am rather new on that level, need to learn more on how the requests work. 11:38 -!- finkan [~finkan@194-103-214-178.kund.ipswe.com] has joined #lightning-dev 11:43 < provoostenator> Random question regarding BOLT-4: why HMAC with SHA256, rather than MAC with Keccak / SHA3? 11:43 < provoostenator> (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash-based_message_authentication_code#Design_principles says "The Keccak hash function, that was selected by NIST as the SHA-3 competition winner, doesn't need this nested approach and can be used to generate a MAC by simply prepending the key to the message, as it is not susceptible to length-extension attacks." 11:47 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@110.140.105.53] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:48 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@101.188.220.230] has joined #lightning-dev 11:49 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 11:51 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 12:02 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has joined #lightning-dev 12:03 -!- kunla [~kunla@2001:8a0:4113:9a01:3d27:764c:77d4:39c1] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 12:06 -!- whythat [~whythat@gateway/tor-sasl/whythat] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:07 < lndbot> lio17 it pays to a Lightning invoice that you create 12:13 < mlz> lio17, suppose you've earned 10000 satoshis from yalls, on your lnd node, do this: lnclie addinvoice 10000 12:14 < mlz> lio17, then it spits out the invoice for you in a string... copy and paste the invoice to the site and tell it to send to you 12:14 < mlz> ooops s/lnclie/lncli/ 12:17 -!- kunla [~kunla@2001:8a0:4113:9a01:c532:83e9:f0e3:5] has joined #lightning-dev 12:17 < lxer> it is not possible to do it the other way around, right? like showing a QR so the user can receive something 12:28 -!- whythat [~whythat@gateway/tor-sasl/whythat] has joined #lightning-dev 12:30 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@unaffiliated/cogito-ergo-sum/x-7399460] has quit [] 12:33 -!- whythat [~whythat@gateway/tor-sasl/whythat] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:37 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 12:39 -!- fructase [~user@106.51.36.200] has joined #lightning-dev 12:40 < provoostenator> Also, how are the hop nodes selected? BOLT-4 doens't seem to specify that. 12:42 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 12:42 -!- kunla1 [~kunla@2001:8a0:4113:9a01:1c7e:e41e:918d:f972] has joined #lightning-dev 12:43 -!- kunla [~kunla@2001:8a0:4113:9a01:c532:83e9:f0e3:5] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:45 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #lightning-dev 12:45 -!- whythat [~whythat@gateway/tor-sasl/whythat] has joined #lightning-dev 12:46 -!- whythat [~whythat@gateway/tor-sasl/whythat] has quit [Client Quit] 12:47 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tteedxvlnbciitsy] has joined #lightning-dev 12:56 <+roasbeef> provoostenator: sha2 is already hardware accelerated widely, the hmac construction makes mac usage safe 12:56 <+roasbeef> provoostenator: they're selected via w/e your path finding algo is 12:56 -!- kunla1 [~kunla@2001:8a0:4113:9a01:1c7e:e41e:918d:f972] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:59 <+roasbeef> also sha2 is used everywhere in bitcoin so we assume impl's are widespread 12:59 -!- kunla1 [~kunla@2001:8a0:4113:9a01:b4c3:49f:80d6:4f40] has joined #lightning-dev 13:04 < lndbot> It’s not possible yet to push payments, we need invoices right now 13:05 -!- kunla1 [~kunla@2001:8a0:4113:9a01:b4c3:49f:80d6:4f40] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 13:18 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 13:23 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 13:24 -!- miklolFi [~miklolFi@78-27-126-165.bb.dnainternet.fi] has joined #lightning-dev 13:26 -!- finkan [~finkan@194-103-214-178.kund.ipswe.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 13:28 -!- miklolFi [~miklolFi@78-27-126-165.bb.dnainternet.fi] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:28 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 13:47 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:48 -!- Osso [~osso@2600:1700:37a0:1068::2] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:08 -!- kunla1 [~kunla@bl13-61-148.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 14:08 -!- Pavle [~pavle_@unaffiliated/pavle/x-4679000] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:19 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 14:20 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:21 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 14:25 -!- Tennis [~Tennis@unaffiliated/tennis] has joined #lightning-dev 14:59 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-tteedxvlnbciitsy] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 15:07 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 15:11 -!- kunla1 [~kunla@bl13-61-148.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 15:16 -!- Guest2932 [~tla@cpe-72-135-235-246.wi.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 15:21 -!- Brian_ [~brian@50-46-116-37.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #lightning-dev 15:22 -!- Brian_ [~brian@50-46-116-37.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has left #lightning-dev [] 15:24 -!- brianlockhart [~brian@50-46-116-37.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #lightning-dev 15:28 -!- Guest2932 [~tla@cpe-72-135-235-246.wi.res.rr.com] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:33 -!- mughat [~textual@x1-6-28-c6-8e-30-bf-4a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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(by the specs) 16:28 < lndbot> In the future there can be direct sends without an invoice 16:31 < lio17> alexbosworth in a future of yalls? or in the future of some lightning implementation? 16:32 < mlz> lio17, if you have an lnd node, it's just a click to get your payment from yalls :P 16:32 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:32 < lio17> mlz: I'm more trying to understand how it works/how it is implemented 16:33 < mlz> lio17, how what works? 16:34 -!- droark [~droark@c-24-22-123-27.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Later.] 16:34 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 16:34 < lndbot> In the future of LND, there is an issue for it 16:35 < lndbot> Currently you need the receiver to give you a new invoice every time 16:35 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has joined #lightning-dev 16:36 -!- brianlockhart [~brian@50-46-116-37.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has quit [] 16:37 -!- brianlockhart [~brianlock@50-46-116-37.evrt.wa.frontiernet.net] has joined #lightning-dev 16:39 < lio17> ok, I see. so it would be possible (with lightning) but not with the current implementations (lnd/yalls)? thanks for the clarification. 16:48 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 16:48 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd581.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:49 -!- wxss [~user@80.179.42.10.forward.012.net.il] has quit [Quit: leaving] 16:49 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jqbtnizlnvbjkmcz] has joined #lightning-dev 17:00 -!- dabura667 [~dabura667@p98110-ipngnfx01marunouchi.tokyo.ocn.ne.jp] has joined #lightning-dev 17:00 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #lightning-dev 17:06 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 17:18 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 17:20 -!- Tennis [~Tennis@unaffiliated/tennis] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:22 -!- droark [~droark@c-24-22-123-27.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 17:23 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 17:26 < lndbot> Yes, it is possible, here is the issue https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/issues/132 17:27 -!- afdudley [afdudleyma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ecfizruvdcehlsxs] has joined #lightning-dev 17:27 -!- pierce [x43matrixo@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fhbqqlbwndjfuehm] has joined #lightning-dev 17:27 -!- kousakahonoka [kousakahon@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zwqlaggcmcmlenpb] has joined #lightning-dev 17:27 -!- rrol[m] [rrolmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-emfsxnttqlbrrnhc] has joined #lightning-dev 17:27 -!- shem[m] [shemmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-gpimxteultarlqqu] has joined #lightning-dev 17:56 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:06 -!- Murch [~murch@96-82-80-28-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 18:12 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 18:38 -!- freeguwop [~freeguwap@node-1w7jra2303l7s2gpj8j0prg0v.ipv6.telus.net] has joined #lightning-dev 18:41 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 18:55 -!- pierce [x43matrixo@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-fhbqqlbwndjfuehm] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 18:55 -!- kousakahonoka [kousakahon@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-zwqlaggcmcmlenpb] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:55 -!- rrol[m] [rrolmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-emfsxnttqlbrrnhc] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:55 -!- interfect[m] [interfectm@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-jqbtnizlnvbjkmcz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 18:55 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 18:55 -!- afdudley [afdudleyma@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-ecfizruvdcehlsxs] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:55 -!- shem[m] [shemmatrix@gateway/shell/matrix.org/x-gpimxteultarlqqu] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:58 -!- Emcy_ [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 19:05 -!- riclas [riclas@148.63.37.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:06 -!- bryan_w [~is@2600:2108:9:8a90:5a69:d114:68b8:dae2] has joined #lightning-dev 19:17 -!- jtimon [~quassel@41.31.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 19:30 -!- meteo [~meteo@52.201.229.182] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 19:33 -!- tuxx_ [~tuxx@bdn.de] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:37 -!- meteo [~meteo@52.201.229.182] has joined #lightning-dev 19:38 -!- meteo [~meteo@52.201.229.182] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:52 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:57 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:58 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 20:05 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:12 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:21 -!- Amperture [~amp@24.136.5.183] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:22 -!- Amperture [~amp@24.136.5.183] has joined #lightning-dev 20:22 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 20:59 -!- mughat [~textual@x1-6-28-c6-8e-30-bf-4a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has joined #lightning-dev 21:12 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@190.140.125.142] has quit [] 21:13 -!- mughat [~textual@x1-6-28-c6-8e-30-bf-4a.cpe.webspeed.dk] has quit [Quit: My iMac has gone to sleep. 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