--- Day changed Sat Mar 24 2018 00:33 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has joined #lightning-dev 00:33 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:36 -!- arowser [~quassel@106.120.101.38] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 00:40 < shesek> If anyone wants to discuss Lightning Charge or the new Lapps based on it, I'll be available at #lightning-charge which I just created. cheers :) 01:30 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 01:41 -!- linux_ [~linux@114.4.79.10] has left #lightning-dev ["Leaving"] 01:57 -!- weedcoder [~weedcoder@pro75-4-82-238-201-154.fbx.proxad.net] has quit [Quit: weedcoder] 02:23 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 02:32 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:41 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 02:55 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Quit: intcat] 03:19 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has quit [Quit: probably someone interrupted me] 04:14 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lightning-dev 04:20 -!- pseudozach [259a989b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.37.154.152.155] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:27 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ihkwqecvmwxqnzct] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 04:43 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has joined #lightning-dev 04:48 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has joined #lightning-dev 04:52 -!- mr_burdell [~mr_burdel@unaffiliated/mr-burdell/x-7609603] has joined #lightning-dev 04:53 -!- Guest4974 [~mr_burdel@bounce.cryptolabs.net] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 05:01 -!- JackH [~laptop@host-80-47-80-55.as13285.net] has joined #lightning-dev 05:31 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:55 -!- volition [~volition@203.87.121.143] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:59 -!- robzon_ [~robzon@178235204182.warszawa.vectranet.pl] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:01 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 07:07 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 07:20 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 07:33 -!- donaloconnor_ [~quassel@80.111.255.30] has joined #lightning-dev 07:46 -!- DrOlmer [~DrOlmer@unaffiliated/drolmer] has joined #lightning-dev 07:48 -!- weedcoder [~weedcoder@pro75-4-82-238-201-154.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #lightning-dev 08:05 -!- donaloconnor_ [~quassel@80.111.255.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:06 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@athedsl-314680.home.otenet.gr] has joined #lightning-dev 08:06 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@athedsl-314680.home.otenet.gr] has quit [Changing host] 08:06 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@unaffiliated/cogito-ergo-sum/x-7399460] has joined #lightning-dev 08:09 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:32 -!- TeaPanda [~TeaPanda@unaffiliated/teapanda] has joined #lightning-dev 08:59 -!- riclas [~riclas@148.63.37.111] has joined #lightning-dev 09:04 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 10:28 -!- donaloconnor [~quassel@80.111.255.30] has joined #lightning-dev 10:57 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 10:58 -!- mangefort [~mangefort@31.176.166.158] has joined #lightning-dev 10:59 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mkyzcicbsaroornk] has joined #lightning-dev 11:04 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@c-73-223-73-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 11:19 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@pfchang-sea.spectrumnet.us] has joined #lightning-dev 11:22 -!- mangefort [~mangefort@31.176.166.158] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:41 -!- Murch [~murch@96.74.120.81] has joined #lightning-dev 11:42 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 11:45 -!- tryphe [~tryphe@unaffiliated/tryphe] has joined #lightning-dev 11:46 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@pfchang-sea.spectrumnet.us] has quit [Quit: probably someone interrupted me] 11:47 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@pfchang-sea.spectrumnet.us] has joined #lightning-dev 12:00 -!- jojeyh [~delphi@47.150.225.231] has joined #lightning-dev 12:17 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@pfchang-sea.spectrumnet.us] has quit [Quit: probably someone interrupted me] 12:18 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@c-73-223-73-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 15:06 < stiell> In AMP, what is the sender supposed to do if the receiver only settles a subset of all the partial payments? 15:07 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined #lightning-dev 15:13 < r251d> I think the atomic "A" means it's only possible to settle all or none of them. 15:13 -!- treyzania [~treyzania@troy.tr3y.io] has joined #lightning-dev 15:17 < stiell> It's not possible for the receiver to settle any partial payment before knowing the base preimage, which they should learn upon all partial payments having been extended, but after that they can choose to only settle some of them. 15:17 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@209.63.143.172] has quit [Quit: probably someone interrupted me] 15:20 -!- be1789f1 [~achristia@c-69-255-241-174.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 15:21 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@209.63.143.172] has joined #lightning-dev 15:38 -!- simlay [~simlay@gateway/tor-sasl/simlay] has joined #lightning-dev 15:55 -!- be1789f1 [~achristia@c-69-255-241-174.hsd1.md.comcast.net] has left #lightning-dev [] 15:56 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 16:01 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@c-73-223-73-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 16:26 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 16:27 < lndbot> nothing, at that point it actually is the receiver’s fault for not taking the total amount offered to them 16:27 -!- volition [~volition@203.87.121.143] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:40 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@c-73-223-73-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:47 < stiell> Sure. But that answer implies that is it not the receiver's fault if they take the amount offered before all partial payments have been extended. How would that not be the receiver's fault? 16:48 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has joined #lightning-dev 16:50 -!- migoreng [~migoreng@219.88.232.71] has joined #lightning-dev 16:52 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:53 < stiell> What the AMP proposal implies is that the sender is somehow inconvenienced if the receiver starts taking payments before all partial payments have been extended, but that all is somehow suddenly good after that point. 16:56 < stiell> So what is the significance of the point where all payments have been extended? 17:10 -!- donaloconnor [~quassel@80.111.255.30] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:15 -!- Cogito_Ergo_Sum [~Myself@unaffiliated/cogito-ergo-sum/x-7399460] has quit [] 17:17 -!- jojeyh [~delphi@70.42.240.30] has joined #lightning-dev 17:23 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@209.63.143.172] has quit [Quit: probably someone interrupted me] 17:25 -!- r251d 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