--- Day changed Wed Mar 28 2018 00:23 -!- Dev91 [~quassel@203.86.206.137] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 00:24 -!- Dev91 [~quassel@203.86.206.137] has joined #lightning-dev 00:29 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 00:55 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has joined #lightning-dev 01:01 -!- chartractegg [~chartract@ip68-98-5-113.ph.ph.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 01:03 < CubicEarths> The LN is just to cool to believe 01:05 < chartractegg> ⚡ 01:07 -!- bitonic-cjp [~bitonic-c@92-111-70-106.cable.dynamic.v4.ziggo.nl] has joined #lightning-dev 01:08 < CubicEarths> If 10,000 people set up new nodes tomorrow and each opened 5 channels... no problem :) I mean, it would be too soon. The bugs still need to worked out, and the 'customer support' would be a nightmare. 01:08 < CubicEarths> But other than this IRC, nothing would crash :) 01:09 < CubicEarths> And it will ultimately be way faster and more efficient than a central database because the peers can just negotiate with each other 01:10 < CubicEarths> never even has to go to a central server 01:10 < chartractegg> hear hear, cubic earth 01:10 < CubicEarths> VISA will never be able to hit LN levels of throughput. Never. 01:10 < chartractegg> hold on a minute though.... how can it be a cube? we all know its turtles all the way down 01:11 < CubicEarths> https://www.reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/87b61e/they_dont_know/dwbww0w/?context=0 01:12 < rabidus> https://i.redd.it/il0xu2emc5o01.jpg 01:13 < chartractegg> rabidus i'm loving this image 01:13 < CubicEarths> rabidus is a bot... 01:13 < rabidus> or is it? 01:14 < CubicEarths> What? 01:14 < CubicEarths> rabidus is a bot... 01:14 < rabidus> or is it? 01:14 < rabidus> :) 01:14 < CubicEarths> wtf 01:14 < CubicEarths> lol 01:15 < chartractegg> disclaimer: I'm not as smart as the average bear 01:16 < CubicEarths> chartractegg: It was me who was confused 01:16 < chartractegg> hey now, what if we're all confused 01:16 < chartractegg> peopel think the earth *isnt* a cube? 01:17 < rabidus> i disagree with LN throughput 01:17 < chartractegg> ¿porque? 01:17 < CubicEarths> yeah, why? 01:18 < rabidus> maybe in theory 01:18 < chartractegg> ....? 01:20 * rabidus is thinking that 100000 nodes are broadcasting messages to each other in a world where you pay micropayments a lot 01:20 < rabidus> have you ran any LN implementation 01:20 < chartractegg> i've not 01:20 < CubicEarths> yes. I have a LND and a C node 01:21 < chartractegg> Terra Cube, what OS are you running that on if you dont mind saying ? 01:21 < CubicEarths> ubuntu 01:21 < rabidus> quite a traffic at least on LND, and i think that there are not that much _users_ right now 01:21 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:21 < rabidus> like yes, maybe nodes but no realworld users 01:21 < rabidus> on mainnet at least 01:21 < CubicEarths> rabidus: It's just the first approximation of what the software will do in the end 01:22 < CubicEarths> They want to get a functional network up and running 01:22 < CubicEarths> Optimizations of the what is now just a gossip protocol will come later 01:22 < rabidus> i was just pointing out that throughput is not yet there, and might not even be there 01:23 < CubicEarths> I am speaking at the edge of my understanding here 01:23 < chartractegg> dont fall!! 01:23 < CubicEarths> Oh, yeah, definitely not today. No way. 01:24 < CubicEarths> Every visa tx has to hit there central system. Or maybe one of a few systems, but they need to sync themselves very quickly. 01:25 < CubicEarths> That is a high data load at one location. LN doesn't have that 01:25 < chartractegg> not one location ? but still easier attack vector? 01:25 < CubicEarths> You could have 1 billion people, each making high-frequency payments back and forth 01:26 < CubicEarths> I am not even speaking of security or censorship or anything like that. 01:26 < chartractegg> ah, my bad 01:26 < CubicEarths> Just from a bandwidth perspective 01:26 < chartractegg> gotcha 01:26 < chartractegg> FWIW I agree with ya 01:28 < chartractegg> the real conundrum is why I'm still running 3x Antminer S3's 01:30 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:30 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #lightning-dev 01:31 < CubicEarths> Keeping the house warm? 01:36 < chartractegg> certainly not in arizona 01:39 < CubicEarths> watch out for them ubers!! 01:39 < chartractegg> for real 01:39 < chartractegg> hah 01:41 -!- chartractegg [~chartract@ip68-98-5-113.ph.ph.cox.net] has quit [Quit: bye bye!] 01:57 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 01:58 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 02:01 -!- JackH [~laptop@host-80-47-80-55.as13285.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 02:10 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lightning-dev 02:30 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@176.158.157.202] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 02:59 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lightning-dev 03:17 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:17 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 03:19 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [] 03:34 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 04:02 -!- MaxSan [~user@86.105.9.67] has joined #lightning-dev 04:14 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has joined #lightning-dev 04:21 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:41 -!- bsm117532 [~mcelrath@2001:558:6017:17f:d521:a116:8477:53d7] has joined #lightning-dev 04:44 -!- riclas [riclas@148.63.37.111] has joined #lightning-dev 04:45 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 05:30 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 05:45 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 05:57 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@rrcs-208-105-57-183.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 06:22 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@rrcs-208-105-57-183.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 06:27 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 06:30 -!- dougsland [~douglas@2607:fb90:6103:7517:bdac:d90f:2f93:901] has joined #lightning-dev 06:34 -!- marcoagner [~user@gateway/tor-sasl/marcoagner] has joined #lightning-dev 07:14 < bitonic-cjp> Trying to use the LND, RPC from Python, I got this: 07:14 < bitonic-cjp> E0328 16:01:50.145568567 28045 channel_connectivity.cc:47] grpc_channel_check_connectivity_state called on something that is not a client channel, but 'lame-client' 07:14 < bitonic-cjp> Any idea? 07:15 < bitonic-cjp> I'm following this example: http://dev.lightning.community/guides/python-grpc/ 07:16 -!- dougsland [~douglas@2607:fb90:6103:7517:bdac:d90f:2f93:901] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 07:33 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 07:33 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-aaolnrrmrkmlqkcn] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 07:34 < bitonic-cjp> Never mind, I solved it. 07:35 < bitonic-cjp> For future reference: I'm using Python 3, and apparently grpc requires me to send bytes objects instead of str objects. 07:36 < bitonic-cjp> For str->bytes conversion I use str.encode(). 07:37 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:37 < bitonic-cjp> This turned out to be especially necessary for the argument given to grpc.ssl_channel_credentials(). 07:39 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@rrcs-67-251-193-154.nyc.biz.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 07:40 -!- Murch [~murch@96.74.120.81] has joined #lightning-dev 07:41 < bitonic-cjp> Even more elegant: open the certfile in binary mode, so that read() returns bytes. 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12:59 < DJDN> {"error":"amount pushed to remote peer for initial state must be below the local funding amount","code":2} 12:59 < DJDN> Code: 12:59 < DJDN> var client = GetLNClient(NodeFolder, NodeAddress); RestRequest request = new RestRequest("v1/channels", Method.POST); request.RequestFormat = DataFormat.Json; request.AddJsonBody(new { node_pubkey_string = (PubID) }); request.AddJsonBody(new { node_pubkey = ByteArrayToString(System.Text.Encoding.UTF8.GetBytes(PubID)) }); request.AddJsonBody(new 12:59 < DJDN> Log: 12:59 < DJDN> 2018-03-28 12:58:22.948 [TRC] RPCS: [openchannel] request to NodeKey(032583df43f7894446d2d5a778e52adbc954886323b1b628ec2da5417a37c5f9c5) allocation(us=0, them=0) 12:59 < DJDN> Server Code: 12:59 < DJDN> localFundingAmt := btcutil.Amount(in.LocalFundingAmount) remoteInitialBalance := btcutil.Amount(in.PushSat) minHtlc := lnwire.MilliSatoshi(in.MinHtlcMsat) // Ensure that the initial balance of the remote party (if pushing // satoshis) does not exceed the amount the local party has requested // for funding. if remoteInitialBalance >= localFundingAmt { return nil, fmt.Errorf("amount pushed to remote peer for " + "init 13:00 < DJDN> dropping into this error condition because it thinks my push_sat and local funding amount are both 0, which makes me think I'm using a wrong parameter name or wrong format 13:01 -!- marcoagner [~user@gateway/tor-sasl/marcoagner] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.0.1] 13:08 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@172.92.143.143] has joined #lightning-dev 13:16 -!- nitramiz [~nitramiz@128.110.66.155] has joined #lightning-dev 13:18 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@172.92.143.143] has quit [Quit: probably someone interrupted me] 13:19 -!- DJDN [48c500ec@gateway/web/freenode/ip.72.197.0.236] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 13:25 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has joined #lightning-dev 13:30 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:34 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-otrolkmkreodbupf] has joined #lightning-dev 13:35 -!- StopAndDecrypt_ [~StopAndDe@c-73-248-248-9.hsd1.nj.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 13:35 -!- StopAndDecrypt [~StopAndDe@unaffiliated/stopanddecrypt] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:57 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:03 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has quit [Quit: probably someone interrupted me] 14:07 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has joined #lightning-dev 14:07 -!- xwvvvvwx [~xwvvvvwx@2a02:8109:92c0:5e8:913c:c662:f61f:ca02] has joined #lightning-dev 14:15 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@rrcs-67-251-193-154.nyc.biz.rr.com] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. 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How do I get the node id of my node? 16:03 < akrmn> I want to send from one of my nodes to another to test 16:09 < roasbeef> arubi: what impl are you running? 16:09 < roasbeef> err akrmn 16:11 < akrmn> ElementsProject 16:11 < akrmn> c version 16:12 < roasbeef> i think they have a getinfo command? 16:13 < akrmn> o ok thanks :) 16:13 < akrmn> I didn't see it with the help command 16:23 < akrmn> feerate_per_kw 12648 above maximum 1265 16:24 < akrmn> I guess time to change the config 16:28 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has quit [Quit: probably someone interrupted me] 16:30 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has joined #lightning-dev 16:30 < akrmn> what's the recommendation? dev-setfees? 16:31 < mlz> 3000 3000 3000 16:35 < akrmn> feerate_per_kw 3000 below minimum 375930" 16:35 < akrmn> First time trying lightning. If there's a more newbie friendly room I can join not to bother the devs 16:38 < mlz> akrmn, maybe update your lightnind? 16:38 < mlz> lightningd* 16:38 < mlz> akrmn, and there's channel #c-lightning, you can ask questions there too 16:39 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has quit [Quit: probably someone interrupted me] 17:12 -!- shesek` [~shesek@bzq-84-110-232-249.cablep.bezeqint.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:13 -!- shesek` [~shesek@bzq-84-110-232-249.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #lightning-dev 17:27 -!- nitramiz [~nitramiz@128.110.66.155] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 17:39 -!- Murch [~murch@96.74.120.81] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 17:50 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 18:01 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:15 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 18:20 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has joined #lightning-dev 18:35 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has quit [Quit: probably someone interrupted me] 18:40 -!- riclas [riclas@148.63.37.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:43 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has joined #lightning-dev 18:48 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 18:50 -!- mangefort [~mangefort@109.163.147.143] has joined #lightning-dev 18:52 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:59 -!- nitramiz [~nitramiz@76.76.240.247] has joined #lightning-dev 19:04 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:11 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:13 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has quit [Quit: probably someone interrupted me] 19:15 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 19:16 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has joined #lightning-dev 19:21 -!- weedcoder [~weedcoder@pro75-4-82-238-201-154.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #lightning-dev 19:38 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:39 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has quit [Quit: probably someone interrupted me] 19:44 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has joined #lightning-dev 19:52 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@174.127.143.202] has quit [Quit: probably someone interrupted me] 19:57 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 19:57 -!- mangefort [~mangefort@109.163.147.143] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:07 -!- da2ce7 [~da2ce7@opentransactions/dev/da2ce7] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:11 -!- douglas_ [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 20:12 -!- tied2chainz [~rhinoadmi@2600:1700:f0e1:9148:d6be:d9ff:fe47:4690] has joined #lightning-dev 20:15 < tied2chainz> Any benefit in having multiple nodes at one location? 20:15 -!- da2ce7 [~da2ce7@opentransactions/dev/da2ce7] has joined #lightning-dev 20:16 < roasbeef> tied2chainz: what do you meany by "one locatoin"? 20:16 < tied2chainz> hosting multiple nodes at a colo 20:17 < tied2chainz> just like in the case of multiple miners at a single location 20:17 < tied2chainz> or site 20:18 < tied2chainz> Does that make sense? 20:39 -!- douglas_ [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:48 -!- pm7_ [pm7@gateway/shell/mydevil.net/x-svxqofrqqqrtlbbb] has joined #lightning-dev 20:49 -!- pm7 [pm7@gateway/shell/mydevil.net/x-wprvladxvdbckcow] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:49 -!- naomiguel [~notmike@notmike.io] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.x-git-891-c30e5ef - https://znc.in] 20:49 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-176-083-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:49 -!- naomiguel [~notmike@notmike.io] has joined #lightning-dev 20:50 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-176-083-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lightning-dev 20:54 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 20:55 -!- BashCo_ [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:00 -!- nitramiz [~nitramiz@76.76.240.247] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:13 -!- xwvvvvwx [~xwvvvvwx@2a02:8109:92c0:5e8:dc26:1af8:bf93:718e] has joined #lightning-dev 21:34 -!- xwvvvvwx [~xwvvvvwx@2a02:8109:92c0:5e8:dc26:1af8:bf93:718e] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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