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17:15 -!- Murch [~murch@c-73-223-113-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 17:15 < jojeyh> i keep seeing references to it but can't seem to find a good explanation 17:31 -!- Zelgada [9c39aa00@gateway/web/freenode/ip.156.57.170.0] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 18:00 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@172.92.143.143] has joined #lightning-dev 18:12 -!- dafunkiz_ [~dafunkizd@172.92.143.143] has quit [Quit: probably someone interrupted me] 18:51 -!- riclas [~riclas@148.63.37.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 18:52 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 18:56 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 19:06 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@c-73-223-73-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 19:08 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 19:18 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lightning-dev 19:29 -!- luke-jr 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ZZZzzz…] 19:53 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@c-73-223-73-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 19:55 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@c-73-223-73-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Client Quit] 19:59 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@c-73-223-73-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 20:00 < wumpus> ooh I like how clightning cli now pretty-prints the json 20:00 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:04 -!- TeaPanda [~TeaPanda@unaffiliated/teapanda] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 20:19 -!- jtimon [~quassel@142.29.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:27 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:14 < buZz> heh you do? i had a hard time reading it , expecting json ^_^ 21:14 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@c-73-223-73-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…] 21:24 < mlz> i use jq 21:25 < buZz> yeah, jq is nice 22:05 < rusty> buZz: recent change, merged yesterday, thanks to cdecker, so it might look prettier today. 22:08 < buZz> exciting! 22:08 < buZz> wish i could reach my LN node now :) poweroutage at home and that system wasnt on UPS yet and had no autoboot on power :( 22:10 < mlz> ok updating 22:11 < mlz> buZz, poor u .. :D 22:11 < buZz> mlz: take a screenshot for me? :D 22:11 < mlz> haha.. we'll see :D 22:13 < mlz> i updated my c-lightning node two days ago and noticed it took forever to scan the chain 22:34 < jojeyh> are all channels unidirectional? 22:34 < jojeyh> i know according to the spec HTLCs can be sent both ways, so technically its bidirectional 22:34 < jojeyh> but only one party can fund a channel correct? 22:35 < jojeyh> wouldn't this strongly bias channels towards a particular direction? 22:36 < jojeyh> if i'm setting up a channel and i'm the one who funds it, so effectively the first commitment is all of the liquidity on my side, how can i receive payments? 22:36 < jojeyh> that would end with an amount greater than the total output of the funding transaction? 22:40 < mlz> jojeyh, i thought you've been doing LN for a while now? 22:41 < jojeyh> lulz what mistake have i made 22:41 < jojeyh> its been off and on 22:43 < jojeyh> is my logic wrong? 22:43 < jojeyh> or is the solution to just have multiple channels open? 23:00 < mlz> buZz, haha it does look much better, now i don't have to use jq anymore :D 23:04 < buZz> screenshot? :D 23:09 -!- Murch [~murch@c-73-223-113-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 23:56 < wumpus> jerseykx: being able to fund a channel from both sides sounds useful, but would require a way to add funds to an existing channel 23:57 < wumpus> there's already so many edge cases, can't blame them for not doing that in the first iteration