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adding some ec points 14:43 < waxwing> zkps on hashes is a bit painful though right 14:44 < roasbeef> we've implemented it use zkboo, which is pretty simple, fast, and easily grokkable, but then the proofs are large-ish 14:44 < roasbeef> no asymmetric ops 14:46 -!- wxss [~user@185.145.66.240] has quit [Quit: leaving] 14:47 < waxwing> roasbeef, ah, i see, thanks 14:48 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has quit [Quit: No Ping reply in 180 seconds.] 14:50 -!- spudowiar [~spudowiar@unaffiliated/saleemrashid] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 14:50 -!- MaxSan [~user@86.105.9.67] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 14:51 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has joined #lightning-dev 15:23 -!- mangefort [~mangefort@109.163.162.180] has joined #lightning-dev 15:25 -!- mangefort [~mangefort@109.163.162.180] has quit [Client Quit] 15:33 -!- amp__ [~amp@24.136.5.183] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:52 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 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