--- Day changed Sat Apr 28 2018 00:07 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-spbqdxhlhvdxkotl] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 00:14 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:15 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 00:17 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd657.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #lightning-dev 00:22 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 00:45 -!- arowser [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 01:15 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has joined #lightning-dev 01:16 -!- arowser [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #lightning-dev 01:27 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@xdsl-188-155-63-9.adslplus.ch] has joined #lightning-dev 01:31 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@xdsl-188-155-63-9.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 01:53 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 01:58 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 02:06 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lightning-dev 02:53 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:04 -!- arowser [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:04 -!- arowser [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #lightning-dev 03:05 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@xdsl-188-155-63-9.adslplus.ch] has joined #lightning-dev 03:05 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-235-130.cablep.bezeqint.net] has joined #lightning-dev 03:05 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-235-130.cablep.bezeqint.net] has quit [Changing host] 03:05 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined #lightning-dev 03:09 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@xdsl-188-155-63-9.adslplus.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 03:15 -!- riclas [riclas@148.63.37.111] has joined #lightning-dev 03:21 -!- BashCo [~BashCo@unaffiliated/bashco] has joined #lightning-dev 03:40 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@37.58.58.232] has joined #lightning-dev 03:50 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 03:54 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 03:56 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@37.58.58.232] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 03:59 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 04:06 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zqyatjedaxgovafq] has joined #lightning-dev 04:28 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@80.83.137.122] has joined #lightning-dev 05:04 -!- arowser [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 05:04 -!- C-Otto [~cotto@ip2-169.halifax.rwth-aachen.de] has joined #lightning-dev 05:04 -!- arowser [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #lightning-dev 05:04 < C-Otto> hi 05:04 < C-Otto> I attended some events in Munich this week (thanks, cdecker!) and I'd like to help refine the spec 05:05 < C-Otto> I opened a PR and a few issues already, is that the way to go? 05:06 < cdecker> Depends on how much you change, if it's just a simple rewording feel free to propose a PR, for larger changes a discussion on the ML is probably the way to go 05:06 < C-Otto> OK 05:08 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 05:09 < C-Otto> What about things that are confusing for me? For example, in accept_channel there's a requirement regarding chain_hash, although chain_hash is not even part of the message (I guess this should just be moved to open_channel) 05:13 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd657.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:13 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #lightning-dev 05:18 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 05:41 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has joined #lightning-dev 05:47 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 06:03 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:03 -!- Prezise [~prezise@HSI-KBW-095-208-119-103.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has joined #lightning-dev 06:06 -!- arowser [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:07 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lightning-dev 06:07 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has joined #lightning-dev 06:07 -!- arowser [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #lightning-dev 06:09 -!- arowser [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 06:11 -!- arowser [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #lightning-dev 06:11 < cdecker> Hm, I would go for the ML in this case 06:15 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zqyatjedaxgovafq] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 06:16 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [chris@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/chrisstewart5/x-62865615] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 06:29 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@37.58.58.232] has joined #lightning-dev 06:29 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@37.58.58.232] has quit [Client Quit] 06:37 < Prezise> What does this error exactly mean? [lncli] rpc error: code = Unknown desc = Funder balance too small (-172905000) with fee=362905 sat, minimum=1146 sat required 06:37 < Prezise> I've got a bit less than 200000 satoshis (litecoin) confirmed in my lightning wallet 06:38 < Prezise> lnd if it matters 06:39 < Prezise> maybe my funds need to have 6+ confirmations... 06:45 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 06:46 < molz> Prezise, let's ask in channel #lnd 06:46 < Prezise> ok 06:46 -!- Prezise [~prezise@HSI-KBW-095-208-119-103.hsi5.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de] has left #lightning-dev ["Leaving"] 06:48 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 06:57 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:10 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #lightning-dev 07:21 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:32 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 07:36 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:41 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 07:45 -!- arowser [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:45 -!- arowser [~arowser@45.32.248.113] has joined #lightning-dev 07:51 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sixuwtxiypsfkhwk] has joined #lightning-dev 07:57 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:59 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:05 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 08:25 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has quit [Ping timeout: 255 seconds] 08:25 -!- tombusby [~tombusby@gateway/tor-sasl/tombusby] has joined #lightning-dev 08:26 -!- r251d [~r251d@2600:1700:e350:37f0:fd18:943a:432c:29a7] has joined #lightning-dev 08:30 -!- r251d [~r251d@2600:1700:e350:37f0:fd18:943a:432c:29a7] has quit [Client Quit] 08:53 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@80.83.137.122] has quit [Changing host] 08:53 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lightning-dev 09:00 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 09:00 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lightning-dev 09:05 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Client Quit] 09:05 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lightning-dev 09:08 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@c-73-223-73-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:10 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #lightning-dev 09:20 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:20 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:23 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 09:27 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:35 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lightning-dev 09:38 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:38 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lightning-dev 09:40 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 09:59 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 10:01 -!- meshcollider [uid246294@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sixuwtxiypsfkhwk] has quit [Quit: Connection closed for inactivity] 10:05 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-235-130.red.bezeqint.net] has joined #lightning-dev 10:05 -!- shesek [~shesek@bzq-84-110-235-130.red.bezeqint.net] has quit [Changing host] 10:05 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined #lightning-dev 10:11 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lightning-dev 10:15 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 10:21 -!- moneyball [~moneyball@c-73-223-73-149.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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