--- Day changed Fri Jun 08 2018 00:08 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lightning-dev 00:32 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has joined #lightning-dev 00:45 -!- GTHaxor1 [~GTHaxor@2601:5c0:c100:ad70:59a4:519d:14f4:38ec] has left #lightning-dev [] 01:04 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@195.181.167.149] has joined #lightning-dev 01:40 -!- gustavonalle [~gustavona@redhat/jboss/gustavonalle] has joined #lightning-dev 01:50 < CubicEarths> If by server costs he means the electrical consumption of a raspberry pi.... then maybe 02:32 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.1] 02:47 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has joined #lightning-dev 02:51 -!- RubenSomsen_ [uid301948@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gaonromyyeoueisv] has joined #lightning-dev 02:51 -!- RubenSomsen_ is now known as RubenSomsen 03:20 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@195.181.167.149] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 03:49 -!- Anduck [~Anduck@unaffiliated/anduck] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 03:52 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 03:52 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lightning-dev 04:00 < pepesza-> Hello, everyone. Raiden team is talking about state channels. It sounds like they imply they've figured out how to do state channel chanining. Can't find anything that would confirm or deny that. 04:01 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:01 < pepesza-> My intuition says that state channel chaining is possible for very very limited set of mathematical functions - hardly applicable for anything more than payments. 04:02 < nirved> raide is on top of ethereum, where all transactions can be reversed if some people feel like it 04:03 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lightning-dev 04:04 < pepesza-> nirved: this is lightning-dev, not hodling forum 04:05 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 04:05 < nirved> pepesza-: if the funding transaction can suddenly disappear, what do you do? 04:06 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 04:06 < pepesza-> nirved: state channels is a theoretical construction that has nothing to do with Ethereum or petty tribe warfare 04:06 -!- tiagotrs 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The 1990s are calling: use ./configure! 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12:48 < molz> cdecker, it's so '90s to run ./configure! lol 13:02 < cdecker> Yeah, Rusty doesn't seem to like it 13:02 < cdecker> (tooling for C sucks btw...) 13:06 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 13:10 < molz> oh im just joking, i don't mind 13:34 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 13:44 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has joined #lightning-dev 13:44 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:13 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 14:16 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 14:16 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 14:18 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 14:21 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:25 -!- protomar [~protomar@213.152.161.181] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 14:46 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 14:59 -!- snickerfritz [~snickerfr@unaffiliated/snickerfritz] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 15:04 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has joined #lightning-dev 15:04 -!- Tralfaz [~none@103.254.153.99] has joined #lightning-dev 15:08 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 15:09 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:10 -!- Aaronvan_ [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 15:18 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has joined #lightning-dev 15:53 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@110.140.174.10] has quit [Quit: Ping timeout (120 seconds)] 15:54 -!- dcousens [~dcousens@110.140.174.10] has joined #lightning-dev 16:09 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:6c9d:326:f634:3758] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 16:12 -!- nirved [~nirved@2a02:8071:b58a:3c00:acb4:1b68:41ef:abd8] has joined #lightning-dev 16:13 -!- n1bor [~owensr@185.9.34.66] has joined #lightning-dev 16:15 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 16:15 < n1bor> Anyone else seeing a lot of channels that have unspent funding tx, but not ChannelUpdates less than 2 weeks old, but are still being announced? Just there seem to be 2000+ like this and we get announcements every 3-4 hours for each. 16:15 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has joined #lightning-dev 16:15 < n1bor> Then we have to do the validation process. Then an hour later we purge them as have no channel update! Any info please update https://github.com/ACINQ/eclair/issues/624 16:17 <+roasbeef> n1bor: seems to be some faulty/spammy nodes 16:17 <+roasbeef> the new query stuff lets you turn off those updates all together if you wish 16:21 < n1bor> Great - think this is cause of most of the load on the node/bitcoind! e.g. today were 20k channel announcements that had to be processed (needs a getblock!)... 16:23 -!- n1bor [~owensr@185.9.34.66] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 1.4] 16:24 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:45 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:47 <+roasbeef> it's implementation specific how stuff like this is handled tho 17:02 -!- volition [~volition@61.68.144.46] has joined #lightning-dev 17:15 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 17:48 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:26 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 18:35 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:19 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 19:31 -!- snickerfritz [~snickerfr@unaffiliated/snickerfritz] has joined #lightning-dev 20:11 -!- riclas [riclas@148.63.37.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:13 -!- amp__ [~amp@24.136.5.183] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:34 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 20:41 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 20:52 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 21:00 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 21:03 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 21:06 -!- volition [~volition@61.68.144.46] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:19 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has joined #lightning-dev 21:51 -!- CubicEarths [~cubiceart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 22:15 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lightning-dev 23:10 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:49 -!- Tralfaz [~none@103.254.153.99] has quit [Quit: Leaving]