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If I generate an invoice with LND on node A and set its amount to zero, then pay from node B some amount X, how do I find out on node A how much was paid? 03:11 -!- nodweber2 [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 03:12 < molz> mrd0ll4r, the only way i can see is the difference in 'channelbalance' before and after 03:13 < mrd0ll4r> hmm, that's suboptimal if there have been multiple payments between checking the balance 03:13 < mrd0ll4r> or if the node forwarded something, maybe 03:14 < molz> i don't think this type of invoice is used much 03:15 -!- nodweber2 [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lightning-dev 03:20 -!- nodweber2 [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:22 < lndbot> it is recorded in ""amt_paid" in the 0 "value' invoice 03:24 -!- e4xit_ [~e4xit@cpc123762-trow7-2-0-cust7.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has joined #lightning-dev 03:24 -!- nodweber2 [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lightning-dev 03:25 -!- e4xit [~e4xit@cpc123762-trow7-2-0-cust7.18-1.cable.virginm.net] has quit [Quit: quit] 03:26 < lndbot> he wants to know `on node A how much was paid?` 03:26 < lndbot> and on node A it says zero paid 03:27 < lndbot> ``` "value": "0", "settled": true,``` 03:28 < lndbot> Check the amt_paid amount. 03:28 < lndbot> Value will always be 0 on that type of invoice. 03:28 < lndbot> where's the "amt_paid" ? 03:28 < lndbot> In the settled invoice. 03:29 < lndbot> there's no such thing 03:29 < lndbot> i've done this on testnet, you can cross check for me :P 03:29 < lndbot> `"amt_paid": "123000"` there is in mine. ;) 03:29 < lndbot> but we're talking about node A 03:30 < lndbot> you're talking about node B 03:30 < lndbot> that is what I am talking about too. 03:30 < lndbot> but we're talking about node A! 03:30 < lndbot> Yes, that is on node A 03:33 < lndbot> this is node A and the invoice was paid 1000 sat, where is it on this listinvoices? https://paste.ee/p/aYP5J#0IlgPlq74MTKpkRdQkgMxV6RESluX2sd 03:59 < mrd0ll4r> the only mention of amt_paid is https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/93207608b5a433ddfc15cfe56bb060e1c720166e/lnrpc/rpc.proto#L1677 04:00 < mrd0ll4r> however, this is not compiled to Go code, it seems? :thinking: 04:01 < ysangkok> there is probably some automatic gRPC conversion from camel case to snake case 04:01 < ysangkok> try grepping for AmtPaid 04:02 < mrd0ll4r> oh, of course... 04:04 < mrd0ll4r> huh, yep, it's there alright 04:04 < mrd0ll4r> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/blob/master/lnrpc/rpc.pb.go#L3864 04:04 -!- e4xit_ is now known as e4xit 04:05 < mrd0ll4r> now I just have to figure out which version I'm importing and why this is happening the way it is... 04:08 < mrd0ll4r> updated, works now, thanks! 04:09 < molz> mrd0ll4r, yea evidently it was fixed and i wasn't aware of it, i got my testnet nodes updated 04:10 < molz> the amt paid is in msat :/ 04:11 < molz> this crazy, inconsistent switching between sat and msat has gotta stop 04:11 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:12 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lightning-dev 04:16 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:18 -!- Drolmer [~Drolmer@unaffiliated/drolmer] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 04:20 -!- Drolmer [~Drolmer@unaffiliated/drolmer] has joined #lightning-dev 04:21 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lightning-dev 04:26 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:34 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lightning-dev 04:39 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:44 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has joined #lightning-dev 04:59 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 05:01 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 05:04 -!- thrmo [~thrmo@gateway/tor-sasl/thrmo] has joined #lightning-dev 05:13 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lightning-dev 05:31 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:35 < ysangkok> but it is necessarily inconsistent. even in bolt-02, you see push_msat right next to funding_satoshis 05:37 -!- thrmo [~thrmo@gateway/tor-sasl/thrmo] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 05:39 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 05:40 < molz> ysangkok, we have "push_amt" in satoshi 05:42 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has quit [Quit: bye] 05:51 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has joined #lightning-dev 05:57 < ysangkok> ok, but that is a decision lnd made. i was just pointing out that the BOLT's don't use mSAT everywhere. it means that lnd is simply not able to push with fine granularity when opening a channel. some would consider that a bug :P 06:01 < molz> nah not a bug, just not understood or liked by some people 06:03 < molz> i understand msat is used to calculate fees in a precision way but it's still extreme 06:24 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 06:51 < e4xit> is the lnd DNS seed working? I see continuous fails trying to sync my node 06:52 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@37.58.58.232] has joined #lightning-dev 06:52 < molz> im not sure but you shouldn't have problem to sync your lnd to bitcoind/btcd 06:54 < e4xit> I just get this message over and over again 06:54 < e4xit> https://pastebin.com/J4xkpHmt 06:55 < e4xit> I have 9735 open and bitcoind is working fine and fully synced 07:00 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:09 < e4xit> can i manually point lnd to another known lightning node? 07:10 < e4xit> this DNS lookup is still failing for me 07:14 < e4xit> ok it worked with manually connecting to a few peers 07:20 -!- JackH [~laptop@i25091.upc-i.chello.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 07:28 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@37.58.58.232] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 07:29 -!- MaxSan [~user@185.9.19.107] has joined #lightning-dev 07:32 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 07:34 < lndbot> not sure, i've never had this issue 07:34 < lndbot> @johanth do you know what he should do? 07:37 < lndbot> hm, not sure about that error 07:37 < lndbot> should be fine not using the DNS seed though 08:03 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 08:08 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:18 -!- lxer [~lx@176.74.57.198] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 08:21 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:37 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@37.58.58.232] has joined #lightning-dev 08:52 -!- lxer [~lx@ip5f5bd665.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #lightning-dev 09:05 -!- bitonic-cjp [~bitonic-c@92-111-70-106.static.v4.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 09:29 -!- smk [adc7413d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.199.65.61] has joined #lightning-dev 09:57 -!- xchuck00 [~xchuck00@unaffiliated/xchuck00] has quit [] 10:04 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 10:04 -!- xchuck00 [~xchuck00@unaffiliated/xchuck00] has joined #lightning-dev 10:06 < mrd0ll4r> molz, I do have to agree though, some values being in msat and others in sat have confused me a lot already, sorry :o 10:08 < molz> yea i've seen the issue, you're not the only one 10:15 < molz> i think "amt_paid" can be listed in satoshi because that amount doesn't include any ln fees 10:16 < molz> we use msat when it comes to the exotic fee calculation of LN which msat isn't even used in reality onchain or anywhere else :D 10:19 -!- j8g3 [~j8g3@77-58-86-2.dclient.hispeed.ch] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 10:25 -!- laurentmt [~Thunderbi@37.58.58.232] has quit [Quit: laurentmt] 10:27 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 10:32 < mrd0ll4r> yes 10:32 < mrd0ll4r> i was also confused - I though it'd be possible to send amounts in msat 10:32 < mrd0ll4r> but that's just for fees, right? 10:32 < mrd0ll4r> only whole satoshis can be sent 10:33 < mrd0ll4r> i wish we could send msat :) 10:33 < mrd0ll4r> but this is not the right place to ask for that 10:40 -!- casseli [~wzyryslip@199.167.138.20] has joined #lightning-dev 10:48 < molz> well you can send msat with c-lightning, like 500 msat which is half a satoshi, but it's not possible with lnd 10:49 -!- Op1um [~Op1um@50.144.26.93.rev.sfr.net] has joined #lightning-dev 10:55 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:06 -!- smk [adc7413d@gateway/web/freenode/ip.173.199.65.61] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 11:27 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 11:28 -!- gustavonalle [~gustavona@redhat/jboss/gustavonalle] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 11:45 -!- xchuck00 [~xchuck00@unaffiliated/xchuck00] has quit [] 11:58 -!- RubenSomsen [uid301948@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-xrwplestpuhkpvyz] has joined #lightning-dev 11:59 -!- 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