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All intermediaries also need to understand the contract 02:55 < ZmnSCPxj> So you are still limited to what Bitcoin SCRIPT can do, and, you are limited, to what is possible on the channel protocol you are using 02:56 < ZmnSCPxj> I believe existing Poon-Dryja channels are more flexible than anything that has CSV in the main path, like Decker-Wattenhofer or Decker-Osuntokun-Russell (eltoo) 02:56 < ZmnSCPxj> i.e. Poon-Dryja can support more possible contracts than just HTLCs, but not so much for Decker-Wattenhofer or eltoo 02:57 < ZmnSCPxj> since the CSVs there interfere with most SCRIPT operations 02:57 < ZmnSCPxj> Admittedly it has been some time since I have managed to allocate computation cycles on analyzing this, so possibly I am wrong or there may be further recent innovations 02:58 < ZmnSCPxj> Poon-Dryja has the advantage that CSVs exist only in the punishment path, not on the recovery (publish scripts) path 02:59 < ZmnSCPxj> I believe, it is difficult to add the CSVs necessary in Decker-Wattenhofer to arbitrary contracts, and CSVs are necessary to put on the recovery (publish scripts) path. 03:00 < ZmnSCPxj> Poon-Dryja (what we use currently) does have the drawback of "toxic waste" i.e. old state that if it is used by you accidentally or somebody else maliciously will lead to LOSS OF FUNDS 03:01 < ZmnSCPxj> In any case..... I believe Dryja discrete-log-contracts look exactly like HTLCs, and, thus, will also be possible to use on LN. 03:02 < ZmnSCPxj> I encourage people to look at HTLCs, and in particular, to think of HTLCs as our only existing building block for proper contracts that handle money 03:03 -!- ZmnSCPxj [9258463b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.146.88.70.59] has quit [Quit: Page closed] 03:06 < cdecker> ZmnSCPxj: eltoo and DMC are generic platforms on which we can add/remove any kind of outputs, with any kind of scripts, I don't see how they are more restrictive than LN-penalty 03:07 < cdecker> With the minor difference of requiring the settlement delay 03:07 -!- enemabandit [~enemaband@185.227.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 03:08 < cdecker> But also, I'm not sure how penalizing a counterparty works with generic outputs, so I still think that eltoo, with its stricter guarantee is preferable 03:08 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has joined #lightning-dev 03:08 < cdecker> With eltoo, you are guaranteed that the latest agreed upon state eventually gets confirmed, whereas with LN-penalty you have to come up with sensible penalties in case of misbehavior 03:09 -!- ZmnSCPxj [9258463b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.146.88.70.59] has joined #lightning-dev 03:09 < ZmnSCPxj> Good morning cdecker, sorry, it has been too long since I properly considered LN-related ideas, so possibly I have a mistake 03:10 < ZmnSCPxj> By my memory, I think, the issue is precisely the settlement delay 03:10 < ZmnSCPxj> also, it is possible, that, the consideration was only for the Decker-Wattenhofer duplex channels and not the newer eltoo channels, sorry 03:11 < ZmnSCPxj> the CSV delay must be added to the Decker-Wattenhofer channels as an additional restriction on the contract that affects the final output 03:11 < ZmnSCPxj> if the final output contract has a CLTV, then problems will occur, since the CSV on the publish-contracts path may exceed the CLTV on the contract being transported 03:12 < ZmnSCPxj> I believe that was what my analysis before was, but I am uncertain at this point, as I have not been thinking about LN for too long --- sorry 03:12 -!- Kaizen_ [~kaizen_@2605:a601:b021:f00:282a:6847:ac1:18c] has joined #lightning-dev 03:13 < ZmnSCPxj> perhaps it might not apply to Decker-Osuntokun-Russell eltoo channels, but I will need to recompute, and I sadly do not have enough computational cycles to allocate here currently 03:13 -!- ZmnSCPxj [9258463b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.146.88.70.59] has quit [Client Quit] 03:13 -!- enemabandit [~enemaband@185.227.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 03:17 -!- Kaizen_ [~kaizen_@2605:a601:b021:f00:282a:6847:ac1:18c] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 03:19 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:27 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 03:42 -!- GTHaxor1 [~GTHaxor@pool-70-106-226-69.clppva.fios.verizon.net] has joined #lightning-dev 03:50 -!- melvster [~melvin@ip-86-49-18-198.net.upcbroadband.cz] has joined #lightning-dev 03:53 -!- tiagotrs [~user@i59F744A2.versanet.de] has joined #lightning-dev 03:53 -!- tiagotrs [~user@i59F744A2.versanet.de] has quit [Changing host] 03:53 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lightning-dev 03:58 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 04:05 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 04:23 -!- arubi_ [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 04:25 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 04:44 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 04:46 -!- volition [volition@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/volition] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 04:52 < waxwing> have any of the implementations looked into, or coded, dual funding yet? 04:53 < waxwing> perhaps the meta-question is: under what circumstances would people (users) actually do that? i can't expect a random counterparty to agree to do it general, right. 04:56 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 04:56 -!- tiagotrs [~user@i59F744A2.versanet.de] has joined #lightning-dev 04:56 -!- tiagotrs [~user@i59F744A2.versanet.de] has quit [Changing host] 04:56 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lightning-dev 05:00 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 05:00 -!- farmerwampum [~farmerwam@88.202.178.98] has joined #lightning-dev 05:01 < aj> waxwing: if you funded the fees to reclaim the tx, they might? (ie, you provide A, they provide B, your channel balance is A-f, theirs is B) 05:01 < waxwing> good point. everyone has a price :) 05:02 < waxwing> in this scenario you get the "probing for counterparties' utxos" attack vector that comes up in coinjoin too (with anonymous counterparties). that's actually what my real question was :) 05:04 < aj> seems like a lightning nodes utxos would all be associatable, given they're gossiped though? 05:04 < aj> i guess this way you could find them out before they hit the blockchain? 05:04 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:07 < waxwing> hmm yeah. i mean utxos that haven't yet been committed to channels. but i'm not at all clear on what the implications are, if any. 05:18 < cdecker> ZmnSCPxj: yes, the CSV is a bit annoying, but you already have the same thing with LN-penalty: if an output built on a channel has a CLTV or CSV you'll have to close that in time to have the desired effect 05:18 < cdecker> ZmnSCPxj: with eltoo you just have to close slightly ahead of the expiry of those timeout instead of waiting right up to that point 05:19 < cdecker> So if you have a CSV that you'd like to expire at blockheight x, then in LN-penalty you'd settle at blockheight x-\eps, while in eltoo you'd start the settlement at x-\eps-\delta 05:20 < cdecker> What's worse in LN-penalty however is that revoked states may actually leak onto the chain, so if you added and then removed a CLTVd output from the state, and later that timeout expires, it can still happen that that CLTV output gets created and the timeout expires immediately, which is a nasty case to have to handle 05:21 < cdecker> My point is that with LN-penalty you need to drag the penalty mechanism into the output scripts that you build on top (because revoked states may leak on-chain), whereas eltoo this can never happen, at the expense of slightly higher timeouts 05:22 < cdecker> But if it allows me to keep my scripts built on the update mechanism clean of any penaly mechanism, its a cost worth taking imho 05:22 < cdecker> Since it also makes reasoning about things soooooo much easier 05:22 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has joined #lightning-dev 05:27 -!- enemabandit_ [bc25e3b9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.37.227.185] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 05:27 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 05:39 -!- ebx [~ebx@unaffiliated/ebex] has joined #lightning-dev 05:42 -!- Kaizen_ [~kaizen_@2605:a601:b021:f00:282a:6847:ac1:18c] has joined #lightning-dev 05:46 -!- Kaizen_ [~kaizen_@2605:a601:b021:f00:282a:6847:ac1:18c] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 05:47 -!- douglas_ [~douglas@172.58.216.99] has joined #lightning-dev 05:50 -!- dougsland [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 05:53 -!- enemabandit_ [bc25e3b9@gateway/web/freenode/ip.188.37.227.185] has joined #lightning-dev 05:56 -!- m8tion [~user@88.190.249.49] has joined 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waxwing: lnd has dual funding coded, was the first funding style I coded, it's not exposed on the wire, but the machinary still exists internally, if you look at lnwallet/reservation.go 10:43 <+roasbeef> ZmnSCPxj: yeh agree with what cdecker is expressing here, if anything eltoo allows you to more cleany do nested contracts as they all just fallback to the sequencing rather than needing to thread through penalties everywhere 11:04 -!- keymone [~keymone@ip1f13761c.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 11:11 -!- keymone [~keymone@ip1f13761c.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #lightning-dev 11:46 -!- GTHaxor1 [~GTHaxor@pool-70-106-226-69.clppva.fios.verizon.net] has left #lightning-dev [] 11:58 -!- Drolmer [~Drolmer@unaffiliated/drolmer] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:06 -!- Drolmer [~Drolmer@unaffiliated/drolmer] has joined #lightning-dev 12:09 < Drolmer> are there any talks for changing the structure of fee policies with BOLT 1.1? 12:09 < cdecker> You mean sharing fees between the two parties? 12:09 < Drolmer> nop, just more flexible calculation of the fee 12:10 < Drolmer> but that sounds interesting as well 12:11 <+roasbeef> Drolmer: here's a post with some ideas: https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2018-July/001344.html 12:19 < Drolmer> I see, thanks. My main issue (currently) is supporting routing low-amount payments. Currently I don't see how you can have a fee policy that both supports 1 to 200-sat payments and still have a chance & be somewhat profitable on higher amounts. In part it's due to most nodes using the default 1-sat etc. fee policy. 12:21 <+roasbeef> most of the knobs don't really need to be tuned by nodes atm, and even many of the operators don't udnerrstand the knobs or what they do 12:22 <+roasbeef> will be the case that you'll need higher volume of low amt paymsnts to be (maybe) as profitble as lower volume amount of larger payments 12:23 -!- Kaizen_ [~kaizen_@2605:a601:b021:f00:282a:6847:ac1:18c] has joined #lightning-dev 12:25 < Drolmer> But in general you want to support that low-amount payments, right? 12:27 -!- Kaizen_ [~kaizen_@2605:a601:b021:f00:282a:6847:ac1:18c] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:35 -!- tiagotrs [~user@i577A637A.versanet.de] has joined #lightning-dev 12:35 -!- tiagotrs [~user@i577A637A.versanet.de] has quit [Changing host] 12:35 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has joined #lightning-dev 12:39 <+roasbeef> Drolmer: sure, not saying you won't, market forces will work it out in the end 12:43 < Drolmer> roasbeef: true, just a bit frustrating that I miss on routing higher-amt payment, because I want to enable routing of the lower-amts. A maxAbsoluteFee option would help but that's patching and not a real solution for an ideal fee policy. But ye operators/fees will evolve as the usage evolves. 12:45 < Drolmer> For the future, either people will accept & use feeRate or they might compete with the on-chain TX fee.... or both could be phases the market will go through. 12:54 -!- borbyu [~borbyu@c-24-20-51-132.hsd1.or.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 12:55 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 12:55 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 12:55 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.175.89] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 12:59 < Chris_Stewart_5> Why do we call it "SIGHASH_NOINPUT", isn't it really "SIGHASH_NO_UTXO_COMMITTED" or something like that 13:07 -!- tiramasuuuuuuu_ [26632686@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.99.38.134] has joined #lightning-dev 13:19 -!- bitconner [~conner@64-71-8-130.static.wiline.com] has joined #lightning-dev 13:28 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 13:28 -!- JackH [~laptop@2a01:4c8:103d:e041:891a:ea6a:dc66:3f99] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:31 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:36 < Chris_Stewart_5> so with the "onchain" section of eltoo there isn't really a point for settlement txs in the "negotiatoin" phase right? 13:40 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 13:45 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@079-170-138-040-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:54 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 13:55 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@093-092-177-247-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has joined #lightning-dev 14:01 < polydin> rusty, can any old struct be used as a tal cxt? i notice in the subd code that sometimes the subdaemon itself is passed as a context, is this appropiate? 14:01 < rusty> polydin: anything allocated with tal can be, yes. 14:01 < polydin> k tanks 14:02 < rusty> polydin: it depends on what lifetime you want. There's a magic context 'tmpctx' which gets cleaned in the event loop, too. 14:02 < polydin> ah yes i was wondering about that, much tanks capitan 14:09 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:09 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 14:15 <+roasbeef> Drolmer: should be the other way around 14:25 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:26 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 14:26 -!- strongnuclearfor [uid312558@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bifxytcowxarlgun] has joined #lightning-dev 14:49 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 14:51 -!- tiagotrs [~user@unaffiliated/tiagotrs] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 14:55 -!- tiramasuuuuuuu_ [26632686@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.99.38.134] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 14:59 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:00 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 15:01 -!- lalala [26632686@gateway/web/freenode/ip.38.99.38.134] has joined #lightning-dev 15:01 < lalala> go get -d github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd 15:08 < lalala> is go 1.10 optimal for lnd? 15:09 -!- no_input_found [no_input_f@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/noinputfound/x-24977668] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:09 -!- no_input_found [no_input_f@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/noinputfound/x-24977668] has joined #lightning-dev 15:20 -!- michaelsdunn1 [~michaelsd@38.126.31.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 15:24 < Drolmer> roasbeef: are you talking about the order, first compete on the on-chain tx fee and then FeeRate? If so ye, my bad. But depending on adoption there's a very slim chance we may stay on the current state so please keep it in mind for BOLT 1.1 15:26 -!- riclas [~riclas@148.63.37.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 15:31 -!- riclas [riclas@148.63.37.111] has joined #lightning-dev 15:45 -!- xchuck00 [~xchuck00@unaffiliated/xchuck00] has joined #lightning-dev 15:47 <+roasbeef> Drolmer: I mean that if you set a low base fee, you can accomdate smaller payments 15:48 <+roasbeef> if your base fee is 1k sat for example, then no one would route 100 sat thru it, as they'd pay more in fees 15:49 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 15:56 < Drolmer> roasbeef: yes, the dilemma is: do you ignore sub-100sat payments and charge 1sat basefee like the majority and have some revenue, or reduces fees in order to accommodate all payments but at the cost of not getting any meaningful fees. 15:57 <+roasbeef> all up to you, and what you care about, and where you think the fee are 15:57 <+roasbeef> for example, you'll prob even want to raise your min htlc amount some, just to avoid having near dust htlcs on your commitment 15:57 <+roasbeef> market forces will allow participants to determine what works for them 15:58 <+roasbeef> if there's some crisis, nodes can set up to allow those snmaller payments if there's really a high demand for them 16:07 -!- JackH [~laptop@213.205.240.238] has joined #lightning-dev 16:09 -!- jtimon [~quassel@213.28.134.37.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 16:12 -!- JackH [~laptop@213.205.240.238] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 16:21 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Ping timeout: 248 seconds] 16:22 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 16:25 -!- Kaizen_ [~kaizen_@2605:a601:b021:f00:282a:6847:ac1:18c] has joined #lightning-dev 16:29 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 16:29 -!- Kaizen_ [~kaizen_@2605:a601:b021:f00:282a:6847:ac1:18c] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 16:44 -!- casseli [~wzyryslip@199.167.138.20] has joined #lightning-dev 16:52 -!- froyer [~froyer@pa49-181-171-123.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has joined #lightning-dev 17:07 -!- froyer [~froyer@pa49-181-171-123.pa.nsw.optusnet.com.au] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 17:11 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:14 -!- froyer [~froyer@124.19.31.4] has joined #lightning-dev 17:24 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 17:26 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 17:31 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 17:35 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 17:38 -!- michaelsdunn1 [~michaelsd@208.59.170.5] has joined #lightning-dev 17:54 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #lightning-dev 18:06 -!- douglas_ [~douglas@c-73-234-93-65.hsd1.nh.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 18:10 -!- michaelsdunn1 [~michaelsd@208.59.170.5] has quit [Quit: My MacBook Air has gone to sleep. 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