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06:14 < MaxSan> Only two questions I currently have right now and would love to work it out ^_^ 06:23 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 06:24 -!- Ov1se [~Ov1se@138.68.75.100] has quit [Quit: away] 06:39 -!- Ov1se [~Ov1se@138.68.75.100] has joined #lightning-dev 06:43 -!- Ov1se [~Ov1se@138.68.75.100] has quit [Client Quit] 06:47 -!- Ov1se [~Ov1se@138.68.75.100] has joined #lightning-dev 06:49 -!- ThomasV_ [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 06:58 < ysangkok> MaxSan: yes, because eltoo still uses htlcs, you could have a payment that goes through heterogenous ln-penality and eltoo nodes 07:06 -!- Ov1se [~Ov1se@138.68.75.100] has quit [Quit: away] 07:09 -!- Ov1se [~Ov1se@138.68.75.100] has joined #lightning-dev 07:18 -!- Ov1se [~Ov1se@138.68.75.100] has quit [Quit: away] 07:19 -!- Ov1se [~Ov1se@138.68.75.100] has joined #lightning-dev 07:22 -!- Ov1se [~Ov1se@138.68.75.100] has quit [Client Quit] 07:36 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 07:37 < MaxSan> ysangkok: wicked, thought so. was just double checking. 07:38 -!- Ov1se [~Ov1se@138.68.75.100] has joined #lightning-dev 07:39 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:41 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 07:50 -!- xchuck00 [~xchuck00@unaffiliated/xchuck00] has joined #lightning-dev 07:52 -!- michaelsdunn1 [~michaelsd@unaffiliated/michaelsdunn1] has joined #lightning-dev 08:01 -!- xchuck00 [~xchuck00@unaffiliated/xchuck00] has quit [] 08:03 -!- Ov1se [~Ov1se@138.68.75.100] has quit [Quit: away] 08:07 -!- Ov1se [~Ov1se@138.68.75.100] has joined #lightning-dev 08:09 < ysangkok> MaxSan: but with multi-hop locks it of course wouldn't work... 08:11 -!- bergz [~berg@69.12.27.194] has joined #lightning-dev 08:21 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:22 -!- newbold [~adam@neatnik.net] has joined #lightning-dev 08:23 < newbold> hi, is there a REST call in LND to generate an invoice? I can't seem to find one but I feel like I'm overlooking it 08:24 -!- bitonic-cjp [~bitonic-c@a80-100-203-151.adsl.xs4all.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:25 < ysangkok> newbold: isn't the whole api available over rest? then you could use https://api.lightning.community/#addinvoice 08:26 < newbold> ysangkok: ah, ok, for some reason when I was reading about that, it sounded like a call for adding existing invoices, not generaitng new ones. Something about the 'settle_date' description ("When this invoice was settled") 08:27 < newbold> though now that I type that out, it sounds like a silly conclusion :) 08:27 < newbold> ah, I see now, it returns a payment request string -- perfect, this is what I'm after. Thanks! 08:28 -!- Ov1se [~Ov1se@138.68.75.100] has quit [Quit: away] 08:40 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:44 -!- JackH [~laptop@host86-182-8-23.range86-182.btcentralplus.com] has joined #lightning-dev 08:45 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 08:46 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:48 -!- iphelix_ [~iphelix@iphelix.powered.by.lunarbnc.net] has quit [Quit: Free ZNC ~ Powered by LunarBNC: https://LunarBNC.net] 08:49 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #lightning-dev 08:50 -!- intcat [~zshlyk@gateway/tor-sasl/intcat] has joined #lightning-dev 08:53 -!- iphelix [~iphelix@iphelix.powered.by.lunarbnc.net] has joined #lightning-dev 08:54 -!- iphelix is now known as Guest3720 08:55 -!- Guest3720 [~iphelix@iphelix.powered.by.lunarbnc.net] has quit [Client Quit] 08:58 < MaxSan> ysangkok: what do you mean ? 08:59 < ysangkok> MaxSan: because multi-hop locks you need the nodes to not simply forward the preimage 09:00 -!- Murch [~murch@50-200-105-218-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:00 < ysangkok> MaxSan: the proof-of-payment would be wrapped n times along the whole path of length n , if i understood correctly 09:03 -!- iphelix_ [~iphelix@iphelix.powered.by.lunarbnc.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:03 < MaxSan> gotcha 09:03 < MaxSan> i think ^_^ 09:03 < MaxSan> any clue about the channel factories question? 09:04 < MaxSan> with the required closure of a subchannel not breaking down the entire 09:04 < MaxSan> structure ^^ 09:06 < ysangkok> no, sorry 09:07 < MaxSan> no worries 09:15 -!- ThomasV_ [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 09:37 -!- xchuck00 [~xchuck00@unaffiliated/xchuck00] has joined #lightning-dev 09:40 -!- jungly [~quassel@host97-200-static.8-79-b.business.telecomitalia.it] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:41 -!- sfhi 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This will avoid me having to figure out how to write enough Go to extract the default open_channel parameters manually :) 17:10 < conman> rusty: I'm running clightning on mainnet 17:11 < conman> not sure if that helps :P 17:12 < rusty> conman: me too. But no, doesn't :) 17:12 < conman> heh 17:16 < molz> rusty, what do you need? 17:23 -!- xchuck00 [~xchuck00@unaffiliated/xchuck00] has joined #lightning-dev 17:31 -!- xchuck00 [~xchuck00@unaffiliated/xchuck00] has quit [] 17:52 -!- jb55 [~jb55@S010660e327dca171.vc.shawcable.net] has joined #lightning-dev 18:03 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 18:12 -!- riclas [~riclas@148.63.37.111] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 18:22 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:23 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 18:32 < lndbot> I’m running a recent master lnd 18:32 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:32 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 18:39 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@209.58.129.100] has joined #lightning-dev 18:43 -!- Murch [~murch@50-200-105-218-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 18:45 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:45 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 18:48 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Excess Flood] 18:48 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 18:49 -!- thomasan_ [~thomasand@209.58.129.100] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:58 -!- unixb0y [~unixb0y@p2E555055.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 18:59 -!- unixb0y [~unixb0y@p2E555F02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #lightning-dev 19:24 -!- booyah [~bb@193.25.1.157] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 19:28 -!- hrofu [~hrofu@cpe-68-173-69-40.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 19:35 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 19:48 < lndbot> Running recent master commit here as well Bitrefill node. What do you need? 19:56 < rusty> lndbot: thanks, I found one. Just attempted to open a channel to see what defaults lnd was giving. Worked :) 19:57 < rusty> (Still had to check the src code, but this verified I was correct) 20:03 <+roasbeef> we scale depending on the chan amt, so there're defaults for a particular chan size 20:04 -!- keymone [~keymone@ip1f109c7a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:05 -!- keymone [~keymone@ip1f109c7a.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de] has joined #lightning-dev 20:12 -!- CubicEarth [~CubicEart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 20:14 -!- CubicEarth [~CubicEart@c-73-181-185-197.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 20:19 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 20:23 < rusty> roasbeef: yeah, I finally found the formula :) 20:32 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 20:34 -!- hrofu [~hrofu@cpe-68-173-69-40.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:39 -!- hrofu [~hrofu@cpe-68-173-69-40.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 20:47 -!- Murch [~murch@c-73-223-113-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 21:28 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 21:38 -!- Murch [~murch@c-73-223-113-121.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Quit: Snoozing.] 21:42 -!- xchuck00 [~xchuck00@unaffiliated/xchuck00] has joined #lightning-dev 21:53 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.75.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 22:07 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 22:09 -!- grubles_ [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has joined #lightning-dev 22:09 -!- grubles [~grubles@unaffiliated/grubles] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:23 -!- hrofu [~hrofu@cpe-68-173-69-40.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:29 -!- hrofu [~hrofu@cpe-68-173-69-40.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 22:30 -!- ekim [63f5d5de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.245.213.222] has joined #lightning-dev 22:30 -!- ekim [63f5d5de@gateway/web/freenode/ip.99.245.213.222] has quit [Client Quit] 22:35 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.75.121] has joined #lightning-dev 22:38 -!- inara [~inara@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 22:39 -!- bitconner [~conner@136.24.75.121] has quit [Ping timeout: 244 seconds] 22:40 -!- inara [~inara@68.ip-149-56-14.net] has joined #lightning-dev 22:49 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 22:53 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has joined #lightning-dev 22:58 -!- arubi [~ese168@gateway/tor-sasl/ese168] has joined #lightning-dev 22:58 -!- bitconner [~conner@c-73-170-56-77.hsd1.ca.comcast.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 23:01 -!- hrofu [~hrofu@cpe-68-173-69-40.nyc.res.rr.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 23:06 -!- hrofu [~hrofu@cpe-68-173-69-40.nyc.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 23:15 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 23:15 -!- ThomasV [~thomasv@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 23:24 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:33 -!- Ov1se [~Ov1se@138.68.75.100] has joined #lightning-dev --- Log closed Wed Oct 17 00:00:39 2018