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jtimon> I'm reading the specs (still on bolt 3, starting the key derivation chapter), but I'm not sure what the sequence of events would be with respect to the creation of commitment and htlc transactions. Is there a page or document with detailed examples with a channel that goes through several commitment transactions and the like? I feel I'm still missing something fundamental. Perhaps some part of the specs I could read next to 10:39 < jtimon> understand it better or some other suggested reading order. How can ever subsatoshi payments be consolidated with other payments in the channel instead of trimmed? I'm not sure how to articulate mny doubts, but I'm sure detailed examples would help. 10:45 < jtimon> I guess I need to read bolt 5 10:51 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 10:52 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 10:57 -!- scoop [~scoop@50-77-133-26-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:57 -!- scoop [~scoop@50-77-133-26-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 11:02 -!- scoop [~scoop@50-77-133-26-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 252 seconds] 11:18 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:22 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 12:09 -!- scoop [~scoop@50-77-133-26-static.hfc.comcastbusiness.net] has joined #lightning-dev 12:14 -!- waxwing [~waxwing@unaffiliated/waxwing] has quit 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