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the connection] 07:49 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@38.126.31.226] has joined #lightning-dev 07:54 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 08:09 -!- captjakk [~captjakk@174-16-212-40.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:27 -!- kam270 [~kam270@183.182.104.69] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 08:35 -!- bitonic-cjp [~bitonic-c@92-111-70-106.static.v4.ziggozakelijk.nl] has quit [Quit: Leaving] 08:43 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@38.126.31.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:45 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@38.126.31.226] has joined #lightning-dev 08:50 < darosior> conner: Ok I thought asking too join was quite bothering ^^ 09:05 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 09:15 < bitconner> darosior: not at all! hopefully next time we can have it auto admit people tho 09:15 < bitconner> cdecker: i'll look into it 09:21 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:21 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@38.126.31.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:22 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@38.126.31.226] has joined #lightning-dev 09:22 < darosior> bitconner: Ok it's great ! 09:22 < darosior> Thanks 09:27 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@38.126.31.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 09:35 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:38 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@38.126.31.226] has joined #lightning-dev 09:40 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has joined #lightning-dev 09:43 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@38.126.31.226] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 09:50 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@38.126.31.226] has joined #lightning-dev 10:16 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lightning-dev 10:22 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:32 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@38.126.31.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 10:34 -!- mdunnio 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That has the advantage that it will propagate better than node_announce. 17:46 -!- vtnerd [~Lee@173-23-103-30.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.4 - https://znc.in] 17:47 -!- vtnerd [~Lee@173-23-103-30.client.mchsi.com] has joined #lightning-dev 18:10 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 18:20 -!- riclas [~riclas@77.7.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:36 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 18:42 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:55 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 18:55 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lightning-dev 18:59 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:19 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lightning-dev 19:20 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 19:26 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 19:27 -!- pm7 [pm7@gateway/shell/mydevil.net/x-cfgporxzvsrvvbja] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 19:27 -!- pm7 [pm7@gateway/shell/mydevil.net/x-uheidzvogqsjvsjp] has joined #lightning-dev 19:31 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 19:55 < jimmy_chien_feng> In lightning network, does every node create transactions on their own and just exchange necessary signatures rather than whole transactions? 19:56 -!- vtnerd [~Lee@173-23-103-30.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 19:56 < rusty> jimmy_chien_feng: yes. 19:58 -!- vtnerd [~Lee@173-23-103-30.client.mchsi.com] has joined #lightning-dev 20:02 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 20:03 -!- vtnerd [~Lee@173-23-103-30.client.mchsi.com] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 20:06 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 20:07 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 20:07 -!- vtnerd [~Lee@173-23-103-30.client.mchsi.com] has joined #lightning-dev 20:42 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 20:47 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 21:14 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 21:18 <+roasbeef> rusty: what do you think about the other comment about hop hints? 21:18 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 21:28 < rusty> roasbeef: yes, we need to extend `r` in bolt11 somehow, I agree. Unf. it's not extensible in current form. 21:29 < rusty> roasbeef: it'd also be nice to suggest channel ids in invoices: `r` is pretty heavy. We use this for suggesting liquid channels to use. 21:44 < rusty> roasbeef: perhaps a new `s` field which is short_channel_id + len + u5*len. That's 14 chars + 1 char per 5 feature bits. 21:46 < rusty> Or replace r entirely? 21:54 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 21:58 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 258 seconds] 22:14 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:14 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 23:02 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [] 23:29 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 23:31 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:37 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has joined #lightning-dev 23:52 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has joined #lightning-dev --- Log closed Wed Sep 18 00:00:14 2019