--- Log opened Tue Oct 15 00:00:36 2019 00:09 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 00:10 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 00:16 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has joined #lightning-dev 00:27 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has quit [Quit: deafboy] 00:30 -!- deafboy [quasselcor@cicolina.org] has joined #lightning-dev 00:31 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 00:31 <+roasbeef> t-bast: I worked with em loosely maybe 2 yrs or so ago (electrum) on their python stuff, they went a diff direction (pure python) than what I had suggested (electrum backend for lnd), iirc the early code was basically transliterating lnd code, but I think _more_ of it was made from first principles? 00:43 -!- aqquadro [~name@net-37-159-134-26.cust.vodafonedsl.it] has joined #lightning-dev 00:43 -!- aqquadro [~name@net-37-159-134-26.cust.vodafonedsl.it] has quit [Changing 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timeout: 240 seconds] 15:10 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has joined #lightning-dev 15:15 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@38.126.31.226] has joined #lightning-dev 15:18 -!- mdunnio [~mdunnio@38.126.31.226] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:14 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 16:16 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 16:43 -!- Chris_Stewart_5 [~chris@unaffiliated/chris-stewart-5/x-3612383] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 16:55 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lightning-dev 17:16 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 17:19 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 17:19 -!- Emcy [~Emcy@unaffiliated/emcy] has joined #lightning-dev 17:31 -!- anon1 [~anon321@2a02:8308:50c0:4000:efb1:e569:a563:13a7] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 18:21 < rusty> Hmm, if we migrate lightning over to Schnorr / musig, we lose pubkey recovery on invoices. Hmm... 18:22 -!- riclas [~riclas@77.7.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 18:28 < aj> could keep ecdsa for the invoice signature 18:31 < rusty> aj: indeed, but there's a nice story in using schnorr everywhere, particularly with multiple signers etc. 18:32 < rusty> I also wonder if we should start creating new node ids starting only with 02 (?) in preparation for 32-byte pubkeys. 18:33 < aj> rusty: and not having to switch between two different signature algos 18:33 < rusty> aj: exactly, we'd eventually remove ecdsa altogether. 18:35 < aj> i don't see much point doing only even pubkeys in advance of 32B ones 18:35 < rusty> aj: well, conversion becomes trivial? 18:36 < rusty> (We deprecate odd ones, then eventually they vanish from network). 18:41 < aj> i think you could probably mess around with libsecp partial signature stuff to effectively remove key prefixing and get back pubkey recovery (sG-R) * H(R,0,m)^-1 = P where s,R is a partial signature with P for P+-P 18:42 < aj> not sure that'd be better than just adding the extra 32B though 18:42 < rusty> Yeah, I think we just eat the 32 bytes TBH. 18:43 < aj> better than ecdsa since you'll need to do partial signatures for musig and payment points at least 20:09 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 20:47 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 20:52 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 20:52 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 21:27 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 21:32 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 22:03 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 22:05 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Quit: Leaving.] 22:07 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 22:36 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 22:36 -!- shesek [~shesek@unaffiliated/shesek] has joined #lightning-dev 22:39 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 22:44 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 23:20 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 23:25 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 23:29 -!- captjakk [~captjakk@174-16-212-40.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 23:47 -!- marcoagner [~user@2001:8a0:6a53:2e00:1967:22be:ad77:2d5] has joined #lightning-dev 23:58 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev --- Log closed Wed Oct 16 00:00:35 2019