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06:59 < fiatjaf> cdecker, but each "subonion" has its own shared secret, right? why can't you "prepend" onions with outer onions using different shared secrets, then?
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10:52 < fox2p> been trying to find info / discussions on this but can't seem to pinpoint much
10:52 < fox2p> https://t.co/xlsxxkwYrf?amp=1
10:52 < fox2p> welp that's a weird link
10:52 < fox2p> https://arxiv.org/abs/1910.13772
10:52 < fox2p> that's what I meant
10:53 < fox2p> After several years of research on onion routing, Camenisch and Lysyanskaya, in an attempt at rigorous analysis, defined an ideal functionality in the universal composability model, together with properties that protocols have to meet to achieve provable security. A whole family of systems based their security proofs on this work. However, analyzing HORNET and Sphinx, two instances from this family, we show that this proof strategy is broken. We
10:53 < fox2p>  discover a previously unknown vulnerability that breaks anonymity completely, and explain a known one. 
10:53 < fox2p> has anyone read through this?
10:54 < fox2p> ah think I just saw the mailing list post
10:58 < fox2p> > As always, please double-check by interpretation of the paper, as it's
10:58 < fox2p> possible I'm missing something. If my interpretation stands, then it's a
10:58 < fox2p> relatively minor privacy leak, and an easy low-hanging fruit that can be
10:58 < fox2p> patched without wide-spread network coordination.
10:58 < fox2p> that's good to hear
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17:57 < lndbot> <eugene> I think the dust limit should be restricted with an upper bound, though I'm not sure how it would be calculated. My rationale is that if a malicious actor sets the dust limit very high for their commitment tx (note: channel reserve must be equally high), then it is possible for them to route a bunch of in-flight payments *to* them. If this is done, then if they are also a miner, they could mine the commitment tx and steal all of those in-flig
17:57 < lndbot> fees if they are under this very high dust limit. So maybe a spec clarification or spec note would be helpful here. I can't really determine *what* the upper bound should be though.
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