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https://thelounge.chat] 07:48 -!- mol [~molly@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #lightning-dev 07:49 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:02 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has joined #lightning-dev 08:07 -!- captjakk [~captjakk@174-29-9-247.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #lightning-dev 08:19 -!- dongcarl [~dongcarl@unaffiliated/dongcarl] has joined #lightning-dev 08:26 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 08:27 -!- captjakk_ [~captjakk@174-29-9-247.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #lightning-dev 08:30 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 08:31 < ghost43> in BOLT-02, what exactly does "fail the channel" mean? I see sometimes the BOLT says "fail the channel" while sometimes it says "fail the connection" 08:32 < ghost43> but ISTM c-lightning, for example, simply disconnects from the peer, even when it says "fail the channel" 08:32 < ghost43> which would imply the two instructions are actually identical in meaning? 08:48 -!- captjakk_ [~captjakk@174-29-9-247.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:49 -!- DeanGuss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 08:49 -!- captjakk_ [~captjakk@174-29-9-247.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:00 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 09:19 -!- captjakk_ [~captjakk@174-29-9-247.hlrn.qwest.net] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:23 -!- captjakk_ [~captjakk@174-29-9-247.hlrn.qwest.net] has joined #lightning-dev 09:31 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has joined #lightning-dev 09:49 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [Remote 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has joined #lightning-dev 12:47 -!- nodweber [~nodweber@unaffiliated/nodweber] has joined #lightning-dev 12:49 -!- arij [uid225068@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-iolsajmgfxexqmun] has joined #lightning-dev 12:50 -!- vasild [~vd@gateway/tor-sasl/vasild] has joined #lightning-dev 12:54 -!- Dean_Guss [~dean@gateway/tor-sasl/deanguss] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 13:04 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Ping timeout: 250 seconds] 13:05 < cdecker> We used to close unilaterally whenever it says "fail the channel" but stopped doing that and allow more slack since other implementations were using "fail the channel" error codes for soft errors as well, so we'd be over protective in c-lightning 13:06 -!- __gotcha1 [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has joined #lightning-dev 13:08 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 13:08 -!- __gotcha1 is now known as __gotcha 13:15 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:15 -!- ghost43_ [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:15 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lightning-dev 13:15 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lightning-dev 13:17 < ghost43> cdecker: I see. thanks for explaining 13:20 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 13:23 -!- lndbot2 [~lndbot@138.197.213.35] has joined #lightning-dev 13:23 -!- lndbot [~lndbot@138.197.213.35] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:33 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 13:38 < cdecker> Anytime 13:59 -!- slivera [~slivera@217.138.204.74] has joined #lightning-dev 14:03 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 14:04 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has joined #lightning-dev 14:28 -!- rdymac [uid31665@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ynfrvoujkexldpbe] has joined 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