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17:50 < polydin> hey yall is there any way to dual fund a channel?
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17:50 < zmnscpxj> not yet. niftynei is working on it
17:51 < polydin> thanks, is there an issue/pr on github for it?
17:51 < zmnscpxj> if you trust whoever you are dual-funding with, you could hand over the amount from your side to them, then have them return it to you on the channel
17:52 < polydin> would like to connect with whoever is working on it and help out, if possible
17:52 < polydin> oh he's in the chat, thanks i'll pm him
17:53 < zmnscpxj> "she", do note most of us here tend to be afk most of the time
17:54 < polydin> lol whoops, ok thx a bunch
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19:53 <+roasbeef> polydin: alternatively, you open a channel to your channel peer and they open one back to you, results in teh same end state
19:57 < polydin> roasbeef, i'm trying to do that right now as a work around but can't get it to work
19:57 <+roasbeef> polydin: using what node? 
19:57 < polydin> using c-lightning though, i know you work on lnd
19:57 < polydin> its just a local regtest setup
19:58 < zmnscpxj> c-lightning oes not support multiple channels per peer
19:58 < polydin> zmnscpxj maybe this is something i could contribute on?
19:58 < polydin> it seems like a better way to do it than dual funded channels
19:58 < zmnscpxj> we are reluctant to do multiple channels per peer, because of the increased UTXO load
19:58 < polydin> zmnscpxj, can you explain further?
19:59 < zmnscpxj> each channel is a UTXO onchain
19:59 < zmnscpxj> so setting up two channels, one for each direction, is 2 UTXOs
19:59 < polydin> gotcha
19:59 < zmnscpxj> so we prefer to work on dual-funding, where a single channel is funded for both directions, in 1 UTXO
19:59 < polydin> then dual funded is better, assuming both parties agree
19:59 < zmnscpxj> yes
19:59 < zmnscpxj> and every channel setup is an agreement of parties anyway
20:00 < polydin> true
20:00 < polydin> zmnscpxj, i'd really like to work on this, can you recommend where i should start in the c-lightning codebase?
20:01 < zmnscpxj> lemme check
20:01 < polydin> do dual funded channels require a protocol change?
20:01 < zmnscpxj> yes, definitely
20:01 < polydin> ah shite haha
20:01 < polydin> still want to work on it though
20:01 < polydin> it's critical for what i'd like to implement
20:02 < zmnscpxj> https://github.com/ElementsProject/lightning/pull/3418
20:02 < zmnscpxj> how well-versed at you at c-lightning codebase?
20:02 < zmnscpxj> also, suggest switching to #c-lightning if you want to talk details
20:02 < polydin> not at all
20:02 < polydin> i will begin reviewing the code tonight
20:03 < polydin> lemme get on #c-lightning
20:03 < zmnscpxj> suggest going to #c-lightning to discuss architecture of c-lightning with you
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