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07:56 < norisg> Hello, why does only one side pay the commitment fee when the channel is closed ?
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08:42 < ja> norisg: it is simpler that way, what do you propose as an alternative?
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08:48 < cdecker> norisg: yes, at the moment the funder pays all the on-chain fees, though with dual-funding that'll most likely change, since there is no easily identifiable funder, and it makes sense to split
08:49 < cdecker> The work in progress proposal for dual-funding can be found here: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/pull/524
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09:17 < ja> cdecker: do you know where rustys protocol tests announcement will be made? because i am scouting twitter, lists, irc, and the blockstream blog
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09:48 < cdecker> I think he's pretty close to having a working version. He'll most likely post on the mailing list and cross-link on twitter, I'll check with him :-)
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09:54 < ja> ok, will watch the list, thanks
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11:02 < cdecker> Anytime ^^
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12:08 < norisg> cdecker: thank you, dual funding seems very interesting, is there a way to query my node to see whether my channels are private or public (relaying transactions)
12:16 < CubicEarth> What's the status of Eltoo? Is it now waiting on Taproot?
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12:33 < ja> CubicEarth: Eltoo needs something like NOINPUT, which is not included in Taproot. You could do Eltoo without taproot, AFAIK. Just needs NOINPUT
12:40 < CubicEarth> ja: Right. I though I remembered there was a change... or is NOINPUT still coming? Or has Eltoo been modified to not need NOINPUT at this point?
12:40 < CubicEarth> Maybe it was that taproot made possible an alternative that didn't need noinput?
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12:43 < ja> I believe Jeremy Rubins proposal would be sufficient
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13:13 < CubicEarth> ja: checktemplateverify could allow for eltoo?
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16:15 < jeremyrubin> Can someone at some point help me grok the current state of LN Protocol & HTLCs & stuff?
16:16 < jeremyrubin> I want to draft a "lightning in a BIP-119 world" but my understanding of the issues & exact design specs is probably inadequate to write something up that is coherent for the current specifications
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17:20 < rusty> jeremyrubin: you probably want BOLT #3: https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lightning-rfc/blob/master/03-transactions.md 
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17:34 < jeremyrubin> rusty: Thank you very much sir
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