--- Log opened Fri Jan 08 00:00:09 2021 00:00 -!- gribble [~gribble@unaffiliated/nanotube/bot/gribble] has joined #lightning-dev 00:01 -!- sr_gi [~sr_gi@80.174.218.168.dyn.user.ono.com] has joined #lightning-dev 00:17 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 00:18 -!- jonatack [~jon@104.254.90.195] has joined #lightning-dev 00:20 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 00:20 -!- ThomasV_ [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 00:39 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 00:42 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has joined #lightning-dev 00:52 -!- da39a3ee5e6b4b0d [~da39a3ee5@67.23.55.162] has joined #lightning-dev 01:11 -!- ShotokanZH [~ShotokanZ@unaffiliated/shotokanzh] has joined #lightning-dev 01:15 -!- laptop [~laptop@ppp-2-121.leed-a-1.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #lightning-dev 01:16 < ShotokanZH> Hi evryone! 01:16 < ShotokanZH> How do I transfer the BTC that I have in a lightning wallet to a regular BTC wallet? 01:16 < ShotokanZH> (I am using the c-lightning client) 02:05 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-171.cust.tzulo.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 02:07 -!- worc3131 [~quassel@2a02:c7f:dcc4:6500:cf0e:3346:8766:ab20] has joined #lightning-dev 02:27 -!- marcoagn1 [~user@bl6-202-153.dsl.telepac.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 02:28 -!- marcoagner [~user@bl6-202-153.dsl.telepac.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 03:03 -!- da39a3ee5e6b4b0d [~da39a3ee5@67.23.55.162] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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ZZZzzz…] 05:53 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 06:31 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-123.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #lightning-dev 06:49 -!- da39a3ee5e6b4b0d [~da39a3ee5@2403:6200:8876:12e2:1db3:d5d3:fa35:5ac1] has joined #lightning-dev 06:55 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:08 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 07:25 -!- musdom [~Thunderbi@202.184.0.102] has joined #lightning-dev 07:27 -!- Bugz [~pi@035-134-224-053.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Quit: WeeChat 2.3] 07:27 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 07:29 -!- Bugz [~pi@035-134-224-053.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lightning-dev 07:39 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 07:41 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 07:47 < ja> ShotokanZH: you could ask in #c-lightning , this channel is for technical discussions (software development) 08:11 -!- ThomasV_ [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 08:14 -!- worc3131 [~quassel@2a02:c7f:dcc4:6500:cf0e:3346:8766:ab20] has joined #lightning-dev 08:23 -!- da39a3ee5e6b4b0d [~da39a3ee5@2403:6200:8876:12e2:1db3:d5d3:fa35:5ac1] has quit [Quit: My MacBook has gone to sleep. 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Anywhere.] 09:05 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@2601:645:c200:14:91a5:d8cb:fe32:d136] has joined #lightning-dev 09:25 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 09:29 -!- ThomasV_ [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 09:43 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 09:50 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 09:50 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 10:12 -!- kexkey [~kexkey@static-198-54-132-109.cust.tzulo.com] has joined #lightning-dev 10:22 -!- yzernik [~yzernik@69.162.16.6] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in] 10:46 -!- LordCow [~lordcow@lordcow.org] has joined #lightning-dev 10:53 < LordCow> ohey, i keep getting these errors - [ERR] HSWC: ChannelLink(612250:1340:0): failing link: ChannelPoint(cbce3cb8547f148c7362b599c6a610f29245ce45f450e9d9e488873e0743c7fb:0): received error from peer: chan_id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000, err=reply_channel_range 574632+33457 already have block 574632 with error: remote error 10:53 < LordCow> https://github.com/lightningnetwork/lnd/issues/4776 says i should force close these channels? 10:53 < LordCow> not sure how to check if they're in pending close state? 10:55 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has quit [] 11:02 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has joined #lightning-dev 11:11 -!- yzernik [~yzernik@wsip-24-120-55-21.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 11:14 -!- ThomasV_ [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 11:33 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 11:33 -!- __gotcha1 [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has joined #lightning-dev 11:35 -!- __gotcha1 is now known as __gotcha 11:39 -!- musdom [~Thunderbi@202.184.0.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 272 seconds] 11:39 < ja> LordCow: you should ask in an lnd forum 11:39 < LordCow> oki, like? 11:57 -!- jonatack [~jon@184.75.221.43] has quit [Quit: jonatack] 12:09 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has joined #lightning-dev 12:14 -!- jonatack [~jon@88.124.242.136] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 12:16 -!- jonatack [~jon@213.152.162.89] has joined #lightning-dev 12:18 -!- __gotcha [~Thunderbi@plone/gotcha] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 12:26 -!- yzernik [~yzernik@wsip-24-120-55-21.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Quit: ZNC 1.7.5 - https://znc.in] 12:40 < ja> LordCow: i think there is a channel called #lnd . lnd also has a slack : https://lightning.engineering/slack.html 12:44 < lndbot> LordCow: check `lncli pendingchannels` 12:46 < lndbot> if it hasn't been closed yet then you'll need to close it with `lncli closechannel -f txid index` 12:56 < LordCow> ja: ok thx 12:56 < LordCow> wilmer.paulino: they aren't in pendingchannels, they just seem to be active .. so i must close them? 12:58 < lndbot> LordCow: do they show as borked? 12:58 < LordCow> wilmer.paulino: how do i know? 12:59 < LordCow> chan_status_flags = ChanStatusDefault in listchannels 12:59 < lndbot> if you don't have any that are borked then you should be good 13:00 < LordCow> how do you tell if they're borked? 13:00 < lndbot> it'll say it in chan_status_flags 13:00 < LordCow> and these errors keep coming up, it's a bit disconcerting 13:00 < LordCow> ok 13:01 < lndbot> the errors come from an incompatibility in gossip sync between lnd and c-lightning 13:01 < LordCow> ok, but they can still be used? 13:01 < lndbot> this has been addressed in master or v0.12 (still in rc phase) 13:01 < LordCow> ok so i should upgrade 13:02 < lndbot> no they can't be used once borked 13:02 < LordCow> am on 0.11.99 13:02 < lndbot> you should upgrade to prevent the issues going forward, but any borked channels you already have need to be closed 13:02 < LordCow> ok thanks 13:05 < stiell> Why aren't existing submarine swap implementations designed such that they appear as just a 2-of-2 multisig on the chain in the successful case? Or are there such designs? 13:14 < ja> stiell: but how could a 2-of-2 be atomic? i thought atomic swaps can only work if somebody can recover a secret from the transaction, which they can use on the other chain 13:17 < ja> i would think that an hash-lock is sufficient because it can work on both chains. but why would a signature also work on the other chain? it could be a totally different signature scheme. 13:17 < ja> i guess it could be done with adaptor signatures but you asked about existing implementations 13:18 -!- yzernik [~yzernik@wsip-24-120-144-34.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 13:19 -!- cryptosoap [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has quit [Quit: %bye%] 13:19 -!- cryptoso- [~cryptosoa@gateway/tor-sasl/cryptosoap] has joined #lightning-dev 13:20 < stiell> ja: Not talking about cross-chain swaps, but LN-to-chain or chain-to-LN transfers. Though I think the same might go for cross-chain swaps. Think of an atomic swap done through LN channel creation, fund transfer and finally a channel close. On chain that looks like a transfer to a P2WSH, then a spend from that, revealing that it's a 2-of-2 multisig. 13:21 < stiell> s/atomic/submarine/ 13:21 < ja> ah sorry 13:34 -!- yzernik [~yzernik@wsip-24-120-144-34.lv.lv.cox.net] has quit [Read error: Connection timed out] 13:37 -!- yzernik [~yzernik@wsip-24-120-144-34.lv.lv.cox.net] has joined #lightning-dev 13:40 < stiell> Oh, this is part of the plan with HyperLoop (watching https://youtu.be/eB_HkYb7Y2M?t=1834 ). 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