--- Log opened Mon Mar 08 00:00:51 2021 00:37 -!- laptop [~laptop@ppp-1-150.leed-a-2.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #lightning-dev 00:54 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 01:00 -!- riclas [~riclas@77.7.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has joined #lightning-dev 01:11 -!- harrigan [~harrigan@ptr-93-89-242-235.ip.airwire.ie] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 01:13 -!- harrigan [~harrigan@ptr-93-89-242-235.ip.airwire.ie] has joined #lightning-dev 01:36 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 01:38 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 02:49 -!- bitdex [~bitdex@gateway/tor-sasl/bitdex] has quit [Quit: = ""] 03:04 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.166.102.70] has joined #lightning-dev 03:55 -!- AaronvanW [~AaronvanW@unaffiliated/aaronvanw] has joined #lightning-dev 04:34 -!- mol [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #lightning-dev 04:37 -!- mol_ [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 04:56 -!- jtimon [~quassel@90.166.158.146.dynamic.jazztel.es] has joined #lightning-dev 06:18 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 06:40 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 06:55 -!- Xaldafax [~Xaldafax@cpe-104-34-193-119.socal.res.rr.com] has joined #lightning-dev 07:21 -!- lndbot2 [~lndbot@138.197.213.35] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 07:22 -!- lndbot [~lndbot@138.197.213.35] has joined #lightning-dev 07:26 < queip> wallet A sends to B 07:26 < queip> A says payment failed. B did received the funds 07:26 < queip> what to do 07:27 < queip> (so that LN becomes less buggy) 07:34 -!- openoms [~quassel@91.132.136.76] has joined #lightning-dev 07:41 < darosior> queip: huh? 07:42 < queip> darosior: I just has this bug. A wallet is BLW on android, B is Phoenix wallet 07:42 < queip> *had 07:43 < darosior> A did not acknowledge the payment? 07:43 < darosior> I think it's an implementation bug on their end 07:43 < queip> darosior: no idea. I would guess bug was probably in A 07:44 < queip> we really should have devels from all wallets here to debug such issues 07:44 < darosior> Well it would be worse if it was in B! :) You should open an issue on both trackers 08:16 -!- ghost43_ [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 08:16 -!- ghost43 [~daer@gateway/tor-sasl/daer] has joined #lightning-dev 08:34 -!- yzernik [~yzernik@172.58.171.132] has joined #lightning-dev 08:54 -!- musdom [~Thunderbi@202.184.0.102] has joined #lightning-dev 09:14 -!- bitromortac_ [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has quit [Remote host closed the connection] 09:15 -!- bitromortac [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has joined #lightning-dev 09:41 -!- deusexbeer [~deusexbee@095-129-170-051-dynamic-pool-adsl.wbt.ru] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 09:44 -!- mol_ [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #lightning-dev 09:47 -!- mol [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 246 seconds] 10:16 -!- yzernik [~yzernik@172.58.171.132] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:38 -!- kabaum [~kabaum@h-13-35.A163.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 10:44 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 10:52 -!- mol_ [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 11:06 -!- mol [~mol@unaffiliated/molly] has joined #lightning-dev 11:06 -!- musdom [~Thunderbi@202.184.0.102] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 11:17 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 11:21 -!- kabaum [~kabaum@h-13-35.A163.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lightning-dev 11:26 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 264 seconds] 11:50 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 11:52 < jeremyrubin> roasbeef: there's not BOLTs or anything for how schnorr will be used? 11:58 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:09 < ariard> jeremyrubin: have a look on this zeeman thread https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/lightning-dev/2019-December/002375.html 12:11 < ariard> jeremyrubin: and also https://github.com/ElementsProject/scriptless-scripts/blob/master/md/multi-hop-locks.md 12:20 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 12:23 -!- kabaum [~kabaum@h-13-35.A163.priv.bahnhof.se] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:31 -!- harrigan- [~harrigan@ptr-93-89-242-202.ip.airwire.ie] has joined #lightning-dev 12:31 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 12:33 -!- harrigan [~harrigan@ptr-93-89-242-235.ip.airwire.ie] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 12:33 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 12:34 < jeremyrubin> ariard: thanks, added to the wiki https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Taproot_Uses 12:39 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:40 -!- harrigan- [~harrigan@ptr-93-89-242-202.ip.airwire.ie] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 12:40 -!- kabaum [~kabaum@h-13-35.A163.priv.bahnhof.se] has joined #lightning-dev 12:43 -!- harrigan [~harrigan@ptr-93-89-242-202.ip.airwire.ie] has joined #lightning-dev 12:50 -!- harrigan- [~harrigan@ptr-93-89-242-235.ip.airwire.ie] has joined #lightning-dev 12:52 -!- harrigan [~harrigan@ptr-93-89-242-202.ip.airwire.ie] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 12:54 -!- ThomasV [~ThomasV@unaffiliated/thomasv] has joined #lightning-dev 13:23 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.166.102.70] has joined #lightning-dev 13:24 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.166.102.70] has quit [Read error: Connection reset by peer] 13:32 -!- laptop_ [~laptop@ppp-0-215.leed-a-2.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has joined #lightning-dev 13:35 -!- laptop [~laptop@ppp-1-150.leed-a-2.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 276 seconds] 13:49 -!- jonatack__ [~jon@37.167.56.19] has joined #lightning-dev 13:52 -!- jonatack__ [~jon@37.167.56.19] has quit [Client Quit] 13:52 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.167.56.19] has joined #lightning-dev 13:52 -!- jonatack_ [~jon@37.166.102.70] has quit [Ping timeout: 260 seconds] 14:07 -!- jonatack [~jon@37.167.56.19] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:08 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 245 seconds] 14:09 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lightning-dev 14:17 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has quit [Quit: jb55] 14:18 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has joined #lightning-dev 15:04 <+roasbeef> jeremyrubin: not atm, there's a buncha design drafts on teh ML, the design space is pretty big as you'd imagine 15:04 <+roasbeef> on the up side, we can just start to migrate channels to using the new output type, then rely on the ability to update the commitment schema in-flight w/ dynamic commitments stuff 15:05 <+roasbeef> so first step would just be to emulate things pretty closely, knowing it isnt' set in stone and later iterations can taproot-ify things more 15:06 <+roasbeef> some LN impls rely on bitcoind for their wallet stuff, so they could lag somewhat unless they pull things into their own internal wallets like how lnd does 15:06 <+roasbeef> as usually the bitcoind wallet lags behind somewhat like bip32, segwit, etc 15:21 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 15:27 -!- jb55 [~jb55@gateway/tor-sasl/jb55] has joined #lightning-dev 15:34 -!- rusty [~rusty@pdpc/supporter/bronze/rusty] has joined #lightning-dev 16:31 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has quit [Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net] 16:31 -!- luke-jr [~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr] has joined #lightning-dev 16:53 -!- queip [~queip@unaffiliated/rezurus] has quit [Ping timeout: 240 seconds] 17:00 -!- laptop_ [~laptop@ppp-0-215.leed-a-2.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:05 -!- belcher_ [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has joined #lightning-dev 18:09 -!- belcher [~belcher@unaffiliated/belcher] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:15 -!- bitromortac [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has quit [Ping timeout: 268 seconds] 18:17 -!- bitromortac [~admin@gateway/tor-sasl/bitromortac] has joined #lightning-dev 18:32 -!- riclas [~riclas@77.7.37.188.rev.vodafone.pt] has quit [Ping timeout: 265 seconds] 18:36 -!- musdom [~Thunderbi@202.184.0.102] has joined #lightning-dev 18:48 -!- jr_ [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lightning-dev 18:48 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Ping timeout: 256 seconds] 18:49 -!- jr_ [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has quit [Client Quit] 18:49 -!- jeremyrubin [~jr@024-176-247-182.res.spectrum.com] has joined #lightning-dev 18:52 < jeremyrubin> Hey -- meta, but does this channel use some weird quietting settings? 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