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08:45 < pinheadmz> reading up on https://github.com/lightning/bolts/pull/1096 option_simple_close... what is the purpose of the 0 BTC opreturn `null output`? Seems like a waste of bytes
09:22 < harding> pinheadmz: that's for a case where both Alice and Bob want their outputs spent to fees.  Consensus rules require that all transactions have at least one input and one output, so this would be a transaction where the input is the funding output and the output is a 0-value OP_RETURN, spending all the value of funding output to fees.
09:38 < instagibbs> thanks for bringing it up, I don't think these closes will actually work 😬
09:45 < pinheadmz> instagibbs: bc of standardness ?
09:47 < instagibbs> yeah
09:59 < pinheadmz> instagibbs oh interesting, saw your comment. i wouldve guessed the problem was about 0-value or opreturn but the issue is the tx is too small !
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12:34 < pinheadmz> in the case where one side doesn't want their balance bc it is below dust they can drop it to miner fee. but they also could just give it to the other side right? it would just be one extra option for `closee_output`
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16:07 < harding> instagibbs: good catch.  I hadn't thought about how unfairly cheap segwit was.
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